nWo-NMP-4Lyfe Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Check the attached file and scroll to the end. Having a long summer after first year and a semi long break after second year were factors in me choosing this school. In advance: I might be totally wrong here. I think we 2019ers will get 2 weeks according to page 9 of this http://cr.med.ubc.ca/files/2014/10/FOM-MDUP-CR-Full-Senate-Proposal-Approved.pdfGeez document.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Its about 2 weeks, maybe 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nWo-NMP-4Lyfe Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Its about 2 weeks, maybe 3. Yup I feel like every year before had 6-7 weeks, no? Though maybe we get a 1 month break after third year if that link I posted is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economist Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 if theres only 2 weeks of 2nd year summer, how do people fit in summer research in this time?? Can you only realistically have a summer project in 1st year then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nWo-NMP-4Lyfe Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 if theres only 2 weeks of 2nd year summer, how do people fit in summer research in this time?? Can you only realistically have a summer project in 1st year then? Doesn't look like you can anymore. My friends did summer research projects both years and I think they had 6-7 weeks the second time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 They have included scholarly time into the curriculum, on Mondays called flex time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nWo-NMP-4Lyfe Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 They have included scholarly time into the curriculum, on Mondays called flex time Oh, was not aware of this. So essentially flex time is time we as students are to use to shadow/do projects etc individually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Could be, they haven't given any concrete info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Doesn't look like you can anymore. My friends did summer research projects both years and I think they had 6-7 weeks the second time yeah there is just no way with that amount of time. Interesting change! did they give a reason for the new policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Curriculum change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Curriculum change in order to accomplish what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGrisham Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 in order to accomplish what? Oh, I can't comment on the merits or lack thereof of the curriculum renewal at UBC, just that it exists - I would say though, it has an opportune timing with the upcoming accreditation review at UBC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am1022 Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 I'm not attending UBC, but I did contact the Curriculum people when considering. Apparently, it's a shorter second year summer but then they add ~6 weeks of summer in 3rd year (while no other schools get a summer in 3rd year). There are also 3-4 week dedicated FLEX times each year where you can pursue research or other scholarly activities that whole time. While very different than the past, those changes were actually really intriguing to me when considering UBC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 I'm not attending UBC, but I did contact the Curriculum people when considering. Apparently, it's a shorter second year summer but then they add ~6 weeks of summer in 3rd year (while no other schools get a summer in 3rd year). There are also 3-4 week dedicated FLEX times each year where you can pursue research or other scholarly activities that whole time. While very different than the past, those changes were actually really intriguing to me when considering UBC! that is kind of interesting! the 3rd year summer probably helps with CARMS prep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nWo-NMP-4Lyfe Posted July 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Oh, I can't comment on the merits or lack thereof of the curriculum renewal at UBC, just that it exists - I would say though, it has an opportune timing with the upcoming accreditation review at UBC... The real answer: To get more family docs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 The real answer: To get more family docs really? how does the shift do that? Sounds like they are making it in some ways easier to do the sort of thing that traditionally you have to do get into more competitive specialties(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonekid Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 I'm not attending UBC, but I did contact the Curriculum people when considering. Apparently, it's a shorter second year summer but then they add ~6 weeks of summer in 3rd year (while no other schools get a summer in 3rd year). There are also 3-4 week dedicated FLEX times each year where you can pursue research or other scholarly activities that whole time. While very different than the past, those changes were actually really intriguing to me when considering UBC! It's not just UBC. A few schools in Ontario are talking about reducing 2nd year summer and adding some weeks vacation into third year summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 It's not just UBC. A few schools in Ontario are talking about reducing 2nd year summer and adding some weeks vacation into third year summer. you know I don't think that is actually that bad of an idea. I mean you probably don't need a 12 week break between 2nd and 3rd year as much as you need well as much as you can get between 3rd and 4th. You have CARMS, electives to prepare for, and of course clerkship is vastly more exhausting than 2nd year. Plus if you change you mind as to the specialty you would actually have time to do something about it in that summer break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economist Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 you know I don't think that is actually that bad of an idea. I mean you probably don't need a 12 week break between 2nd and 3rd year as much as you need well as much as you can get between 3rd and 4th. You have CARMS, electives to prepare for, and of course clerkship is vastly more exhausting than 2nd year. Plus if you change you mind as to the specialty you would actually have time to do something about it in that summer break. What preparations do you really need to (or can) do for CARMS? Getting your letter of recommendations in order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 What preparations do you really need to (or can) do for CARMS? Getting your letter of recommendations in order? For starters it takes a long time to actually prepare all of the letters for each school, absolutely perfect your CV, and to make sure you have all the paperwork each school wants submitted perfectly. You can afford no mistakes of course, and in theory each school's letter has to be individualized for maximum impact. Next you often have to study like crazy to actually make sure when you get there you are in top form. You may have done say your rotation in field X early in clerkship - so you are sure you are actually interested in it for real as it were. Well that was 9 months ago and you probably aren't as sharp as you could be. You need to be as sharp as you can be though - all the marbles are on the table. Ha, it's go time. If someone asks you a question on elective you better get it right. Then there is arranging all the travel plans, and preping your current home for the trip etc. In theory you may also have some research to wrap up or some other project. For some fields all this is less stressful - maybe most of your electives are close by or even at your home school. For competitive specialties you probably have to just do what every you have to in order to max your chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maruo Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 I believe the change has been initiated as a way to prepare for the Accreditation review occurring next year. I've heard that they received some recommendations to change the program for a few years now, so it's finally happening. in order to accomplish what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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