rmorelan Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 47 minutes ago, ellorie said: Well, given that I've been in the CAMH call pool for 15 months now...NOT doing that would feel pretty great. ha This is true. Speaking as someone with exactly one final call shift left doing call vs not doing call would fell better. (there will be cake - it will not be a lie). Birdy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 7 hours ago, #YOLO said: tbh family residency is super chill...compared to my friends in other specs im relaxing all the time. Sure - but compared to most other jobs though it is still a lot longer hours (got to love those off service call shifts ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellorie Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, rmorelan said: ha This is true. Speaking as someone with exactly one final call shift left doing call vs not doing call would fell better. (there will be cake - it will not be a lie). Holy shit, I know I keep saying this, but I can't believe you're a PGY5 now. I remember seeing you in the hallway on your match day. I was an MS2 and it all felt super far away. Now I'm a PGY3 and starting to get bitter. Though, I think once I finish my current rotation I'll be much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, ellorie said: Holy shit, I know I keep saying this, but I can't believe you're a PGY5 now. I remember seeing you in the hallway on your match day. I was an MS2 and it all felt super far away. Now I'm a PGY3 and starting to get bitter. Though, I think once I finish my current rotation I'll be much better. oh that match day - probably the most stressful day in my life due to that computer glitch It is odd being this close to being done (while you are basically 1/2 done now - which is still getting a long there for sure). Year 13 of 15 for me ha Not doing sleep deprived all nighters makes huge difference. I don't even have any of those in my fellowship. Take care though - as you know this is a tough gig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost__in__space Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 I think some people can manage to graduate without being fully NaCl, but as a CC3 now my salt levels are exponentially rising..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchEnemy Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 11 hours ago, lost__in__space said: I think some people can manage to graduate without being fully NaCl, but as a CC3 now my salt levels are exponentially rising..... It will get significantly worse once you graduate and can sign orders... trimethoprim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Well I've got 4.5 weeks of clinical training left, and I've got to say, I'm neither salty nor cynical. While I have my moments, attitude-wise I'm still kind of absurdly happy about my place in medicine and looking forward to residency. I know I can't fix everything, or even most things, but I take a lot of joy in the little interactions with my patients in those few times where they do make a difference. I feel like I've been useful at times, have learned a lot, and think I'll make a pretty decent doc. Still super glad I did this. While I don't love it every day, I do most days. Still pending Match results, though. So maybe my optimism will shrivel up and die on Thursday. HappyAndHopeful, bread and End Poverty 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Poverty Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Birdy said: Well I've got 4.5 weeks of clinical training left, and I've got to say, I'm neither salty nor cynical. While I have my moments, attitude-wise I'm still kind of absurdly happy about my place in medicine and looking forward to residency. I know I can't fix everything, or even most things, but I take a lot of joy in the little interactions with my patients in those few times where they do make a difference. I feel like I've been useful at times, have learned a lot, and think I'll make a pretty decent doc. Still super glad I did this. While I don't love it every day, I do most days. Still pending Match results, though. So maybe my optimism will shrivel up and die on Thursday. Good luck, Birdy !! I genuinely hope you will get what you want at your desired location on Thursday Birdy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Birdy said: Well I've got 4.5 weeks of clinical training left, and I've got to say, I'm neither salty nor cynical. While I have my moments, attitude-wise I'm still kind of absurdly happy about my place in medicine and looking forward to residency. I know I can't fix everything, or even most things, but I take a lot of joy in the little interactions with my patients in those few times where they do make a difference. I feel like I've been useful at times, have learned a lot, and think I'll make a pretty decent doc. Still super glad I did this. While I don't love it every day, I do most days. Still pending Match results, though. So maybe my optimism will shrivel up and die on Thursday. Residency is truly what you make it to be. There are ups and downs but for me there were far more ups than downs. I felt like by the end of residency I truly felt like a doctor. You look back on all that work that you put in in undergrad, in preparing for the interviews, in doing those interviews, that elated moment when you find out you're going to med school, and then putting 4 years of hard work in med school and then another 2-5+ years in residency. Your job involves constant learning, a propensity for curiosity, making connections with people from all walks of life, and job security and a comfortable income. I wouldn't trade my life right now for any other. Arztin, Birdy and trimethoprim 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goleafsgochris Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 21 hours ago, Birdy said: Well I've got 4.5 weeks of clinical training left, and I've got to say, I'm neither salty nor cynical. While I have my moments, attitude-wise I'm still kind of absurdly happy about my place in medicine and looking forward to residency. I know I can't fix everything, or even most things, but I take a lot of joy in the little interactions with my patients in those few times where they do make a difference. I feel like I've been useful at times, have learned a lot, and think I'll make a pretty decent doc. Still super glad I did this. While I don't love it every day, I do most days. Still pending Match results, though. So maybe my optimism will shrivel up and die on Thursday. Good luck tomorrow! Maybe youre one of the rare people who take it all in stride and are happy throughout haha. I don't know what you applied to, but if you match to family you probably will finish without it getting too much worse. I have much less faith if you match to a 5y program, where the 1st and 5th years are basically terrible for everyone, and the middle years are also bad for surgeons. (Sorry but having finished residency last year I bristled a bit at the "4 weeks of clinical training left" haha, I did a 5 year program and being done clerkship is like being done the first quarter of a basketball game) Understandable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailureToThrive Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I feel like everyone around me is trying too hard to fake happiness. It's like everyone is too scared to show any sign of weakness. Everyone needs to let loose a little and speak out about their frustrations with med school. ralk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralk Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, MD_2021 said: I feel like everyone around me is trying too hard to fake happiness. It's like everyone is too scared to show any sign of weakness. Everyone needs to let loose a little and speak out about their frustrations with med school. Ha! This is why I'm visibly and audibly salty around clerks. Parts of medical education - both medical school and residency - suck, a lot! Doesn't mean we should ignore the good parts or walk around sullen all the time, but half the reason the sucky parts of medical training continue to be sucky is that we treat it like it's a secret. And as you say, even beyond changing things, acknowledging the sucky parts makes them easier to get through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, MD_2021 said: I feel like everyone around me is trying too hard to fake happiness. It's like everyone is too scared to show any sign of weakness. Everyone needs to let loose a little and speak out about their frustrations with med school. In theory, people should, however be careful of people with ulterior motives. Speak tet a tet, sotto voce, piano piano. Eudaimonia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, goleafsgochris said: Good luck tomorrow! Maybe youre one of the rare people who take it all in stride and are happy throughout haha. I don't know what you applied to, but if you match to family you probably will finish without it getting too much worse. I have much less faith if you match to a 5y program, where the 1st and 5th years are basically terrible for everyone, and the middle years are also bad for surgeons. (Sorry but having finished residency last year I bristled a bit at the "4 weeks of clinical training left" haha, I did a 5 year program and being done clerkship is like being done the first quarter of a basketball game) Thanks. Applied to family, so we’ll see. I should have added “in med school” after my comment about how much clinical training I have left. Definitely a lot more to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FailureToThrive Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 35 minutes ago, shikimate said: In theory, people should, however be careful of people with ulterior motives. Speak tet a tet, sotto voce, piano piano. What kind of ulterior motives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Can confirm. Finished med school, still not salty or cynical. That was a lot of fun. Persephone, RPN-RN-MD, DrOzuma and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arztin Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 I finished med school very salty and cynical, way more than I expected. Now as a resident, I'm definitely better in this regard. I think it depends a lot on our personality and our experiences. Understandable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosalinda Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 5:18 PM, Arztin said: I finished med school very salty and cynical, way more than I expected. Now as a resident, I'm definitely better in this regard. I think it depends a lot on our personality and our experiences. Care to elaborate? What made you salty and cynical? How did it got better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPN-RN-MD Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just checking in after starting med school; I am not yet cynical, but I already have a bit of disillusionment in healthcare (re my nursing background). However, since I know what to expect and that it won't be all roses and daffodils, I have high hopes that I won't get salty or cynical by the time I graduate. I'll check back in after graduation, wish me luck! (P.S. I loved this thread) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Med0123 Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 I can't say I am salty nor cynical, but less idealistic and more pragmatic. There is just so much one can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bread Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 Seeing as I only have 3 weeks left of med school (!), I thought I’d go ahead and answer this. I don’t feel that med school has made me salty or cynical at all. In fact, I think it’s made me abundantly more grateful for my health and my family, and progressively more grateful for being in medicine and having the privilege of doing what we do. I’ve honestly found med school to be a fun and exciting journey, meeting so many wonderful people and patients. I’m feeling sad now that it’s coming to an end. I do feel that it’s opened my eyes so much more to the suffering that people go through and the horrible life circumstances that some people have, as well as many of the inefficiencies within our healthcare system, and there have been times and cases when I’ve felt down about that, and times of exhaustion and stress. I think I went in expecting it to be hard and knowing that the process can make you cynical and less empathetic, and because of that, I was better prepared for the challenging parts and protected my self-care measures. I know residency will be a new challenge, but I’m excited for it and so grateful to be here. Bambi, MasterDoc, MK. and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDinCanada Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 About to finish med school, feeling much more salty and cynical than I expected. However, it might be because of my specific program since a lot of my cohort feels the same way. I'm wondering, why do you guys feel salty & cynical? aray623 and Haribo7173 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 I think it's more that one get cynical about society because you get to deal with all kinds of people and their problems. Also you get to deal with people who have a lot of problems or problems that can never be resolved. Not to mention the design of the healthcare system. I am sure if you work as a divorce lawyer or debt collection agent or jail ward you probably get cynical too after getting to know your clients and the flaws of the respective systems they deal with. Of course I am very grateful for everything the other OPs have mentioned. It's all balance and perspective. Arztin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aray623 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 7:31 AM, MDinCanada said: About to finish med school, feeling much more salty and cynical than I expected. However, it might be because of my specific program since a lot of my cohort feels the same way. I'm wondering, why do you guys feel salty & cynical? -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WACOWACO Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 There is much more to life then a mere intense residency. When you will be working in the real life, you will soon forget about the residency. It was hard to enjoy residency when you go through it, but in retrospective it was a great learning moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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