vikym 5 Posted May 15, 2017 Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 I'm starting to prepare for Casper and looking ahead, the only 2 test dates that Dal will accept for casper are Aug 15 and 20. Does anyone know if I write the test on the 15th and also apply to Ontario schools, will I have to do the test again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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hartk48 135 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 thought id update you and the fellow pre-meds...... turns out we will only be able to write casper once per application cycle, meaning that casper score will be sent to mac and ottawa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MacMed2018 24 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 This makes sense based on their current policy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vikym 5 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Thank you hartk48 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vikym 5 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 It looks like Dal has also added the following now: "Applicants CASPer score must be greater than 1.5 standard deviations below the applicant category mean or their application will not be considered." Does anyone know exactly what this means? Using the MCAT which has a mean of 500 and 1.5x standard deviations is ~15, does that mean that Dal would reject all applicants who did not score above 515? If so that's crazy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmorelan 2,560 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 other way around no? greater than 1.5 STD BELOW the mean? That would if I am reading it right only knock off the bottom 13% or so of the applicants. Put another way it would you have to score less than 1.5 STD below the mean to get kicked out. If I am reading that right it would not be of itself that extreme of an impact (of course it would be for those actually eliminated) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Doc 9 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 "Applicants CASPer score must be greater than 1.5 standard deviations below the applicant category mean or their application will not be considered." Dal released this information when they came out that CASPer would be introduced back in ~ January. The 1.5 standard deviation is referring specifically to the CASPer component. Thus, an applicant must score within 1.5 standard deviations of the applicant category mean on CASPer for their application to be considered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PulsusParadoxus 46 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Yeah. The 1.5 standard deviations only applies to CASPer. Dal has separate MCAT cut-offs which have increased since last cycle if I'm not mistaken. Maritime cutoff is a 503, with only one 124 allowed. OOP is 506 with only one section score of 125 allowed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jess85 18 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I think 1.5 standard deviations on CASPer corresponds to the bottom 15-20%tile so that means if you scored within that range, your application would not be considered any further. PulsusParadoxus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmg1234 0 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 For the MCAT, is it just a cutoff or our actual score is taken into consideration? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PulsusParadoxus 46 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 The actual score is taken into consideration as well and will be translated into a score out of 10 (not sure on what score range equates to what value). Using old MCAT scores (because I don't know how Dal scores for the new MCAT), an overall score of 30 would convert to an 8/10 based on information they provided in a previous rejection letter. That MCAT score gets combined with scores for GPA, interview, and essay/supplemental to give something out of 100 which is used for decisions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bruh 496 Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 That's harsh. I have my MCAT booked on August 19th solely because of DAL. And I have to take CASPer 24 hours later with no prep, then have that score sent to Mac and Ottawa just because of DAL's Deadline..... That is too much sacrifice for an OOP school for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chels1267 154 Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, VINCHER said: That's harsh. I have my MCAT booked on August 19th solely because of DAL. And I have to take CASPer 24 hours later with no prep, then have that score sent to Mac and Ottawa just because of DAL's Deadline..... That is too much sacrifice for an OOP school for me. Then don't apply to Dal and prioritize Mac and Ottawa. Be smart with your apps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vikym 5 Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 So it looks like you can only do the test 1x for all english Canadian medical schools Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vikym 5 Posted June 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Also, since this is the first year Dal is using CASPer, are most people just going to do the test cold turkey without any preparation? I'm hoping that's the case because it will help those of us that have been preparing in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chels1267 154 Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 4 hours ago, vikym said: Also, since this is the first year Dal is using CASPer, are most people just going to do the test cold turkey without any preparation? I'm hoping that's the case because it will help those of us that have been preparing in advance. Why would people applying to Dal not prepare for CASPer? Many people who apply to Dal are also applying broadly, and need to do well since you only get one test a year. Not exactly a supportive attitude there bud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoraAde 85 Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 Actually, at the Mac info session they gave this year, they said that you are able to rewrite CASPer for Mac only if you wrote in August to apply to Dal. Not sure about Ottawa though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vikym 5 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 15 hours ago, SoraAde said: Actually, at the Mac info session they gave this year, they said that you are able to rewrite CASPer for Mac only if you wrote in August to apply to Dal. Not sure about Ottawa though. does that mean you have the option of writing CASPer twice then? 1x for Dal and 1x for Mac? strange. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vikym 5 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 6/25/2017 at 9:50 PM, Chels1267 said: Why would people applying to Dal not prepare for CASPer? Many people who apply to Dal are also applying broadly, and need to do well since you only get one test a year. Not exactly a supportive attitude there bud. A lot of people on this forum tell applicants not to prepare for CASPer. Personally I love it when I see comments like that because then they go in and realize oh .oh .. this is a lot harder than I thought, and run out of time on all sections. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chels1267 154 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 2 hours ago, vikym said: A lot of people on this forum tell applicants not to prepare for CASPer. Personally I love it when I see comments like that because then they go in and realize oh .oh .. this is a lot harder than I thought, and run out of time on all sections. I get what you're saying, I was pointing out that your attitude in saying that is not exactly friendly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vikym 5 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 23 hours ago, Chels1267 said: I get what you're saying, I was pointing out that your attitude in saying that is not exactly friendly. It's a competitive process and my goal is to get accepted, not to come across as being friendly. I have no idea why premeds tell other premeds what they do about CASPer but I'm not going to complain. I think it should be encouraged. May the best candidate be successful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PulsusParadoxus 46 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 3 hours ago, vikym said: It's a competitive process and my goal is to get accepted, not to come across as being friendly. I have no idea why premeds tell other premeds what they do about CASPer but I'm not going to complain. I think it should be encouraged. May the best candidate be successful. I get that it's a competitive process. I applied 3 times before I was accepted into medicine. Did that stop me from honestly helping my fellow applicants with interview prep, supplemental essays, or general advice? Not at all. You always hear the stereotype of the "do anything to succeed gunner". From all of the premeds I had ever interacted with, to the current physicians I know, none had that type of attitude. It's extremely disheartening to see that those attitudes really do exist. That said, I wish you and all of the applicants this cycle the best of luck. But help each other out and aim for success together rather than hoping for each other's failure. Chels1267 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollypercocet 12 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 On 6/28/2017 at 2:57 PM, vikym said: It's a competitive process and my goal is to get accepted, not to come across as being friendly. I have no idea why premeds tell other premeds what they do about CASPer but I'm not going to complain. I think it should be encouraged. May the best candidate be successful. With your typical immature pre-med attitude I hope you don't get in. At least not at Dal. With your attitude you might be better off in commerce... SunAndMoon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hartk48 135 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 completely out of curiosity (no idea how survived stats) what % of the distribution lies below 1.5 SD ? I know 66% lies with in -1 to 1 SD , so would the bottom 10-15% be cut out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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