sowhat Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi, I was wondering, did any grad student hear from U of T yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomMDhopeful Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 @sowhat I think I saw someone say they had, but I haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, MomMDhopeful said: @sowhat I think I saw someone say they had, but I haven't. I checked the results thread, the only person is a Master's student with no first author papers, so technically she was not in the grad students pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomMDhopeful Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 @sowhatNot sure then? I don't have any first author papers either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, MomMDhopeful said: @sowhatNot sure then? I don't have any first author papers either... Oh well, most likely they will consider you an undergrad, it sucks but that's what they say on their website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomMDhopeful Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 @sowhat Possibly. I have a lot of other things that show research productivity. No point in speculating lol, time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, MomMDhopeful said: @sowhat Possibly. I have a lot of other things that show research productivity. No point in speculating lol, time will tell. yeah. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomMDhopeful Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, sowhat said: yeah. good luck Same to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peace2014 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, sowhat said: I checked the results thread, the only person is a Master's student with no first author papers, so technically she was not in the grad students pool That person was a MD phD candidate. All their invites have to be sent super early that's why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, peace2014 said: That person was a MD phD candidate. All their invites have to be sent super early that's why I think she was both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peace2014 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, sowhat said: I think she was both I meant because she was a MD phD and a MD candidate as well, her overall file was probably reviewed early since MD PhDs are reviewed first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, peace2014 said: I meant because she was a MD phD and a MD candidate as well, her overall file was probably reviewed early since MD PhDs are reviewed first. Yeah could be...all in all I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of grad students did not receive a response yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomMDhopeful Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, sowhat said: Yeah could be...all in all I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of grad students did not receive a response yet? That is my understanding. I should mention I have heard of grad who got into utoronto md without publications. With that being said their undergrad gpa could have been competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, MomMDhopeful said: That is my understanding. I should mention I have heard of grad who got into utoronto md without publications. With that being said their undergrad gpa could have been competitive. Oh definitely, I know many people who got in with no pubs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightFalcon Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Have any grad students been put in the grad stream with a first-authored publication that has been submitted (not accepted yet) at the time of application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingScottsman Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 2018-01-31 at 8:56 PM, TwilightFalcon said: Have any grad students been put in the grad stream with a first-authored publication that has been submitted (not accepted yet) at the time of application? Yeah, I did! It was a protocol. I indicated the manuscript was "in progress" on the application (accepted in the fall) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomnias Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, FlyingScottsman said: Yeah, I did! It was a protocol. I indicated the manuscript was "in press" on the application (accepted in the fall) In press = accepted tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterofnone Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 4:43 PM, sowhat said: Oh definitely, I know many people who got in with no pubs... but evaluated in the grad pool or evaluated in the undergrad pool? So unclear how they might measure productivity in the absence of a first author pub.... do we think the supervisor's additional letter is high value? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomMDhopeful Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, masterofnone said: but evaluated in the grad pool or evaluated in the undergrad pool? So unclear how they might measure productivity in the absence of a first author pub.... do we think the supervisor's additional letter is high value? :/ I'm pretty sure the person I know was evaluated as a grad applicant. But honestly, who knows lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightFalcon Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 5 hours ago, masterofnone said: but evaluated in the grad pool or evaluated in the undergrad pool? So unclear how they might measure productivity in the absence of a first author pub.... do we think the supervisor's additional letter is high value? :/ I would /hopefully/ suspect that the additional letter is of high value? It's hard to show the work you've put in to your graduate degree just by stating it on your CV, especially if you are doing your Masters. The majority of Master's students don't submit papers until they are at least almost finished. I can't speak on behalf of PhD students though. But that's where the supervisor can speak on your behalf and state that he/she WILL be submitting papers, presenting at conferences, etc. I'm in my 2nd year of my Master's and I was lucky enough to submit a first-authored paper last summer (accepted soon) and present an oral abstract at an international conference. But that was just the nature of my project. So I'm not sure if U of T thinks that is "productive". Just my two cents. Not sure if anyone else can comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingScottsman Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 hours ago, insomnias said: In press = accepted tho. Sorry! I meant "in progress" not "in press" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erythrocyte Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Don't quote me, but I heard from someone that the grad applicant pool are usually interviewed on the final interview days (last weekend of March, 1st weekend of April). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted February 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 21 hours ago, masterofnone said: but evaluated in the grad pool or evaluated in the undergrad pool? So unclear how they might measure productivity in the absence of a first author pub.... do we think the supervisor's additional letter is high value? :/ The additional letter does not speak about research productivity, it just confirms that you are in a good position in your program and that you will graduate on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterofnone Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, sowhat said: The additional letter does not speak about research productivity, it just confirms that you are in a good position in your program and that you will graduate on time. Based on what information? Be careful of contributing to misinformation. As per UofT Website: One confidential letter of reference from your graduate supervisor* submitted to OMSAS. This letter must be accompanied by the Graduate Supervisor Form. Graduate supervisors must submit the letters online. Please access the Referees section of your OMSAS application to arrange to send the Graduate Supervisor Form and letter request to your graduate supervisor. This letter must be received by OMSAS by October 2, 2017. This letter should include details of your: (expected) graduate degree completion date research work academic capability scholarly productivity/scholarly potential *Your graduate supervisor’s letter of reference must be provided in addition to the three letters of reference sent to OMSAS, even if your supervisor wrote one of those three letters (reference letters are viewed independently of the graduate supervisor’s letter). Your graduate supervisor’s letter is not a personal letter of reference and instead must focus on your performance in the graduate program. It should not include reference to non-academic activities. Please have your supervisor identify this letter in the header as ‘Additional Letter for Graduate Applicant’. Applicants who do not provide details of their degree completion date will not be assessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted February 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 42 minutes ago, masterofnone said: Based on what information? Be careful of contributing to misinformation. As per UofT Website: One confidential letter of reference from your graduate supervisor* submitted to OMSAS. This letter must be accompanied by the Graduate Supervisor Form. Graduate supervisors must submit the letters online. Please access the Referees section of your OMSAS application to arrange to send the Graduate Supervisor Form and letter request to your graduate supervisor. This letter must be received by OMSAS by October 2, 2017. This letter should include details of your: (expected) graduate degree completion date research work academic capability scholarly productivity/scholarly potential *Your graduate supervisor’s letter of reference must be provided in addition to the three letters of reference sent to OMSAS, even if your supervisor wrote one of those three letters (reference letters are viewed independently of the graduate supervisor’s letter). Your graduate supervisor’s letter is not a personal letter of reference and instead must focus on your performance in the graduate program. It should not include reference to non-academic activities. Please have your supervisor identify this letter in the header as ‘Additional Letter for Graduate Applicant’. Applicants who do not provide details of their degree completion date will not be assessed. Based on what my supervisor who wrote it and also wrote one of my regular reference letters told me Anyways...I am just saying what I know, and I don't think either I or anyone here can claim to know the truth for sure, so it is not misinformation really, just what I knew directly from someone who wrote this letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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