List of Canadian-friendly USMD Schools - 2019 ver.

[Serendi]

***NOW UPDATED WITH THE 2019 MSAR***

• The new MSAR values are given at the top of each school's description with a heading MSAR 2019. Note that this means using MSAR values released on 2019. They're for class entering fall 2018.

Hi fellow non-Americans,

As noncitizens, we face greater difficulty than Americans - there are schools that flat out reject any international applications, schools that say they accept but never really interview anyone (looking at you, Tufts and Baylor), and schools that are super friendly towards us. Of course, they're all on MSAR, but unless some screams MSAR at you you won't look at it. It took me a while to come up with a list via MSAR, supplanted with wisdoms of **DELETED** and SDN. I'm now writing to share that with you so you won't have to go through same process. Everything here is based on 2017 MSAR, and things can change. So go buy that MSAR and start looking at it!

Applying is just one aspect. There's also the financial problem - US MD schools are quite expensive, and we can't get federal financial aid. No FAFSA for us. Probably don't have a cosigner to get private loans, too. So unless you can come up with a brilliant way to fund half a million dollars, your acceptance is going to be rescinded. That's not nice - so something definitely to think about before applying to 40 schools. There are schools that will provide some sort of funding - loans, grants - to non-Americans, but there aren't that many. Keep this in mind before sending your application. Ontarians can take OSAP and loans with co-signer from CIBC, RBC, TD, etc for max $250,000 CDN and ~$40,000 OSAP. No clue about other provinces.

Quoting @Goro, International students need to be Harvard/Stanford calibre. While this may be an exaggeration (sorta), do keep in mind that if there is another American candidate that's exact replica of us, he/she will probably get in over us. Higher stats, ECs are expected from us. Sucks, but that's life. Also doesn't help that most of international-friendly schools are clustered near the top.


Few quick points: 

• Public schools are less likely to take in internationals than Americans. Go for private. Kentucky loving Canadians is a notable exception to this.
• Top schools are more likely to take in internationals AND give financial aid.
• Forget about Texas and California.
• Schools taking 1 international students are excluded on this list. Quoting @gyngyn, they're likely to be inside candidates. He recommends 3 or above. There are couple schools taking 1-2 internationals on this list, though it's mostly because they've taken more in the past.
• When it says 'no Aid', its for Canadian/Internationals. Not for Americans.
• When it says 90hr/1yr/Bachelors required, that's for International students outside of US/Canada. If you're Canadian or internationals student who went to US undergrad, dont need to worry about this.
• US Permanent Residents = US Citizens
• DACA = for the most part, international students
• Thos with CoA ??? = I couldn't find the total cost of attendance. I might've written total tuition costs next to it.
• Also keep in mind that CoA is just an estimate!

Schools providing Financial Aid: 
These schools are willing to provide some form of financial aid to international/Canadian students, whether in forms of Loans or Grants. Mostly rich schools high up in the ladder.



Columbia (Vagelos)

• MSAR 2019: 3.89/520, 4 International Matriculants (474 app / 31 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 5 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.87/519, 7 International Matriculants.
• CoA $380K(!). Has financial aid, although significant amount of it is in loans.
• Requires 3 full year + Bachelor's degree in USCAN.

Duke

• MSAR 2019: 3.86/518, 2 International Matriculants (381 app / 53 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.88/519, 0 International Matriculants (!!).
• MSAR 2017: 3.85/516. 3 International Matriculants.
• CoA $310K. Has financial aid in forms of Need-based grant.
• Requires 1 year of post-sec Ed on USCAN.
• MD/PhD is only for Americans.

Dartmouth (Geisel)

• MSAR 2019: 3.74/516, 8 (!) International Matriculants (662 app / 48 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.74/515, 4 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.78/515, 5 International matriculants.
• CoA $344K. States that it can provide 'need-based financial institutional scholarships and loans'.
• Requires 3yr of post-sec Ed in USCAN.
• Has a reputation for loving nontrads.

Harvard

• MSAR 2019: 3.93/520, 16 (!!) International Matriculants (486 app / 44 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.92/519, 6 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.92/518, 16 International matriculants. The most international-friendly school.
• CoA $370K. Aid is available with a unit loan.
• 1Yr post-sec ed on USCAN, although states that 'without Bachelor's in US/CAN rarely accepted.'

Mount Sinai (Icahn)

• MSAR 2019: 3.88/519, 5 International Matriculants (382 app / 20 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 5 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.84/519, 4 International matriculants.
• CoA $290K. Aid is available ($31500/yr) + Merit scholarships. Loans for 3/4th years via Mpower.
• Will accept international education after evaluation from WES but strongly encourages NA education

Northwestern (Feinberg)

• MSAR 2019: 3.91/520, 0 International Matriculants (358 app / 19 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.91/520, 0 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.9/519, 3 International matriculants. MSAR says 1, but NW says 3 on its page. wtf?
• CoA $350K, Aid is available.
• 3Yr post-sec Ed on USCAN.

Stanford

• MSAR 2019: 3.93/520, 9 International Matriculants (401 app / 0 (???) interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.86/519, 5 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.89/518, 5 International matriculants.
• CoA $352K, aid is available in forms of Grants and Loans. Need to show proof of 1 year of tuition.
• 1Yr post-sec ed on USCAN.

Vanderbilt

• MSAR 2019: 3.93/521, 4 International Matriculants (335 app / 16 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.91/521, 7 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.9/520, 6 International matriculants.
• CoA $350K, aid is available.
• 'Recommend' 1yr Post-sec ed on USCAN.

Yale

• MSAR 2019: 3.92/522, 8 International Matriculants (480 app / 39 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.88/521, 11 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.89/518, 10 International matriculants.
• CoA $355K, aid is available with a unit loan.
• 3Yr post-sec Ed on USCAN.

Johns Hopkins 

• MSAR 2019: 3.94/521, 7 International Matriculants (617 app / 22 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.94/520, 8 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.92/519, 9 international matriculants.
• CoA $320K, aid is available.
• 1yr post-sec Ed on USCAN.

Mayo - MN (Alix)

• MSAR 2019: 3.94/520, 6 International Matriculants (297 app / 27 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.91/517, 0 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.85/513. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants. Only for MN - AZ/FL dont take Canadians.
• CoA 330K. Aid available per current Canadian student

Schools that won't provide Financial Aid/Canadian Only: 
These schools will only accept Canadian applicants in additions to usual Americans. They will not provide any forms of financial aid. Some may have escrow requirement.


George Washington 

• MSAR 2019: 3.79/513, 4 International Matriculants (731 app / 26 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.72/511, 4 Canadian Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.72/511, super low-yield chool. 2 Canadian matriculants.
• CoA $320K(??). No aid available.
• Has a weird 'special International MD program' for international students, designed for said students to leave US and practice in their home country. Probably not something you're looking for. Regular MD is only for US/Canadians.

Michigan State - Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.71/508, 2 International Matriculants (499 app / 3 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.68/507, 3 Canadian Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.71/507. US/Canadians only. 3 Canadian matriculants.
• CoA $330K. No aid available

Maryland- Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.83/514, 2 Canadian Matriculants (188 app / 14 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.84/513, 3 Canadian Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.85/515. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants.
• CoA $380K (!) No aid available.

Virginia Commonwealth - Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.78/512, 5 Canadian Matriculants (296 app / 0(!!) interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.74/511, 2 Canadian Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.74/511. Super low-yield. 4 Canadian matriculants.
• CoA $275K. Canadians are essentially considered as OOS Americans. No aid available.

Wayne State

• MSAR 2019: 3.74/510, 9 International Matriculants (662 app / 65 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.74/509, 18 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.76/508. US/Canadians, and any international student who went to Wayne State as undergrad. 8 International matriculants.
• CoA $350K. No aid available.

Central Michigan - Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.71/509, 3 International Matriculants (587 app / 0 (!!) interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.74/506, 4 Canadian Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.7/504, US/Canadians only. 5 Canadian matriculants.
• CoA $384K(!!) the most expensive school on the list.
• Wants ties to Central Michigan. Being in Canada doesn't count.

Schools that won't provide Financial Aid: 
These schools will consider all international applications, but will not provide any forms of Financial aid. Some may have escrow requirement.


Boston 

• MSAR 2019: 3.84/518, 6 International Matriculants (647 app / 62 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.83/518, 11 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.81/516, 11 International Matriculants. Low-yield school.
• CoA $350K. No financial aid.
• Requires 2 year of post-secondary education + prerequisites done in US/CAN.

Emory

• MSAR 2019: 3.8/515, 5 International Matriculants (453 app / 17interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.79/515, 3 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.79/515, 4 international matriculants.
• CoA $320K. No financial aid.
• Requires 32hr of science coursework on USCAN.

Georgetown

• MSAR 2019: 3.79/513, 4 International Matriculants (731 app / 26 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.8/513, 9 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.74/512, 5 international matriculants. Super low-yield.
• CoA $370K. No financial Aid.
• Needs foreign transcript evaluated.

Medical College of Wisconsin

• MSAR 2019: 3.74/510, 4 International Matriculants (434 app / 14 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.79/511, 4 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.76/515, 1 international matriculants.
• CoA $275K. No financial aid. Requires document supporting your ability to pay up $254K.
• 90hr of ed on USCAN. Casper required.
• Wants to see shadowing. Canadians beware

New York Medical College

• MSAR 2019: 3.67/512, 4 International Matriculants (619 app / 11 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.63/511, 4 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.65/512. 4 international matriculants. No secondary = super low yield.
• CoA ???. No financial aid. Escrow requirement of $239K.
• Prereqs must be done on USCAN. Bachelors' strongly recommended.

Penn State

• MSAR 2019: 3.81/511, 2 International Matriculants (580 app / 9 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.82/510, 2 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.82/509. 1 International matriculants.
• CoA $285K. No financial aid.
• All prereq must be done on USCAN.

Penn (Perelman)

• MSAR 2019: 3.92/521, 2 International Matriculants (366 app / 13 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.88/520, 1 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.87/518. 6 International matriculants.
• CoA ???, Tuition only is $240K. No Financial Aid. Gives good amount of scholarships but disappointing from such a rich school 
• 1yr ed on USCAN.

Pittsburgh

• MSAR 2019: 3.87/517, 3 International Matriculants (346 app / 9 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.86/517, 3 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.85/515. 3 International matriculants.
• CoA $330K. Escrow requirement of 2-yr tuition. No financial aid.
• 1yr + prereqs done on USCAN.

Saint Louis University

• MSAR 2019: 3.91/514, 14 International Matriculants (483 app / 63 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.89/513, 12 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.87/512. 11 International matriculants.
• CoA $295K. Escrow requirement of $210K. No aid.
• Requires TOEFL or SAT as test of English proficiency.

Jefferson (Sidney Kimmel)

• MSAR 2019: 3.75/514, 8 International Matriculants (617 app / 22 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.74/514, 5 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.75/512. 9 International matriculants. Super low-yield.
• CoA $308K. No Aid available.
• Requires Bachelors from USCAN.

SUNY-Upstate - Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.79/514, 7 International Matriculants (463 app / 23 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.73/513, 7 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.75/512. 8 International matriculants.
• CoA $367K. No aid available.
• Requires 90hr post-sec ed on USCNA.
• Likes Canadians

SUNY-Stony Brook (Renaissance) - Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.84/516, 16 International Matriculants (379 app / 39 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.82/514, 9 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.8/514. 3 International matriculants.
• CoA $370K. Needs 'Affidavit of support' for this amount.
• 1yr post-sec ed on USCAN.

Tulane

• MSAR 2019: 3.64/512, 8 International Matriculants (627 app / 15 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.64/511, 4 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.62/511. 5 International matriculants.
• CoA $355K. No aid available.
• Casper required.

Hawaii (Burns) - Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.82/513, 2 International Matriculants (194 app / 18 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.82/513, 2 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.76/510. 2 International matriculants.
• CoA ?? No aid available.
• Prereqs recommended to be done on USCAN.

Kentucky - Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.79/508, 1 International Matriculants (287 app / 8 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.83/511, 6 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.82/512. 8 International matriculants. Known to love Canadians.
• CoA $371K. No aid available. Need document supporting ability to pay 2 yr tuition.
• 1yr on USCAN.
• Application status changed from 'accepting all Canadians/Internationals' to 'Case-by-Case' for all Int/Canadian applications. Not sure of the consequence.

Virginia - Public

• MSAR 2019: 3.93/519, 2 International Matriculants (295 app / 20 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.91/519, 8 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.9/518. 2 International matriculants. According to my advisor's medical handbook, they treat Canadians like OOS Americans.
• CoA 335K.
• 90hr on USCAN or UK.

Washington University @ STL

• MSAR 2019: 3.93/522, 10 International Matriculants (312 app / 78 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.91/521, 9 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.89/521. 8 International matriculants.
• CoA 335K. Escrow requirement. No need-based aid available (Merit aid is).
• 90hr on USCAN.

Cornell (Weill)

• MSAR 2019: 3.9/519, 0 International Matriculants (385 app / 26 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.87/519, 2 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.78/519. 5 International matriculants.
• CoA $355K. Escrow requirement. No aid available.

Lona Linda

• MSAR 2019: 3.88/509, 13 International Matriculants (406 app / 22 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.83/508, 17 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.86/508. 10 International matriculants. For SDA, super devout Christians.
• DO NOT APPLY IF YOUR FAITH DOESNT MATCH UP (SUPER DEVOUT CHRISTIAN)
• CoA ??? $225K tuition only. No aid available.
• 1yr on USCAN.

Howard

• MSAR 2019: 3.51/504, 10 International Matriculants (626 app / 17 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.45/502, 5 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.41/502. 9 International matriculant. HBCU.
• CoA $304K. No aid available.
• 68hr on USCAN.

Case Western / CCLCM

• MSAR 2019: 3.83/518, 2 International Matriculants (220 app / 2 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.82/518, 7 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: did not accept Internationals
• 3.81/517.
• CoA $356K. No need-based aid, though Merit Aid is possible. CCLCM covers everything.

UCLA

• MSAR 2019: 3.88/518, 3 International Matriculants (702 app / 16 interviewed)
• MSAR 2018: 3.85/517, 9 International Matriculants
• MSAR 2017: 3.79/508. 2 International matriculants.
• Their MCAT went from 508 to 517, so..yeah. big jump there.
• No Escrow, but No financial aid either. Eligible for Geffen and another full-tuition merit scholarship. Thanks @mikooz!

***NOW ACCEPTING INTERNATIONALS***

Meharry

• MSAR 2019: 3.54/502, 10 International Matriculants (336 app / 3 interviewed)
• HBCU!

West Virginia

• MSAR 2019: 3.86/509, 3 International Matriculants (317 app / 19 interviewed)
• Random addition to the international list

***HALL OF SHAME OF BARRICADING INTERNATIONALS GOING FORWARD***


Albert Einstein College of Medicine

• NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS FOR 2019-2020 CYCLE!
• MSAR 2018: 3.82/515, 5 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.83/516, 5 International Matriculants.
• CoA $290K. Has an escrow requirement: 2 year for Non-Canadians, half of 1 year tuition for Canadians.
• Financial aid is available through Einstein Scholarship and College Loan Funds.
• Requires 1 year post-secondary education in US/Canada.

NYU Langone

• NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS GOING FORWARD!
• MSAR 2018: 3.92/521, 0 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.9/520. Not just Canadians, but also Canadian PRs. Maybe this is why there are other non-Canadians in their MSAR. 2 International matriculants.
• Willing to provide Merit scholarships but no other forms of Financial Aid.
• CoA 335K (4yr pathway) . No aid available.

Rosalind Franklin

• NOT ACCEPTING CANADIAN/INTERNATIONAL APPLICANTS GOING FORWARD!
• MSAR 2018: 3.62/518, 9 International Matriculants.
• MSAR 2017: 3.63/511, 8 International Matriculants. Low-yield school.
• CoA $300K. No financial aid. Needs Casper.
• Requires 90hr of post-sec Ed on USCAN.

Oakland Beaumont


***We Hate Internationals But We Love That $weet $econdary Fee!***
In other words, applying to these schools is a waste of your precious secondary fee.
 

• Baylor
• East Tennessee
• USC (Keck)
• Louisiana,
• McGovern,
• Morehouse,
• NEOMED,
• Rutgers (both of them),
• All Texas schools (+Baylor)
• Brown,
• Tufts,
• all PR schools,
• Arizona,
• All UCs EXCEPT UCLA,
• Chicago (Pritzker),
• Colorado,
• Connecticut,
• Illinois,
• Louisville,
• UNC Chapel Hill,
• Utah

2019 Analysis: 
 

• Sadly (or SAD! in American way), three schools dropped out of international-friendly list: NYU, Einstein, and Rosalind Franklin. I heard Einstein might re-open their doors to internationals (like Case did last year), but not sure for the other two. SAD!
• BUT Meharry and West Virginia joins the list of admitting 3+ internationals/class for this year. Yay!
• Note on Meharry and Howard: Know that these two are HBCU, or historically black college. 90%+ of their classes are black or African American. If you aren't member of the target group, then your application likely won't be considered. Just something to consider before paying the secondary fee.
• Harvard, Stanford, Yale, SLU, Loma Lida, and SLU remained as the most international-friendly schools of America for this year. But that rise in Stony Brook is impressive. Wonder what happened?
• In contrast, the drop in numbers for Boston, UCLA, Virginia and Wayne (although still lots) is disappointing.
• The discrepancy in # interviews and # acceptance for Stanford, VCU and CMED is confusing. No idea what happened.

That's it - good luck with your applicaiton!




That's it. MSAR says 71 schools are willing to take International/Canadian applications. After some analysis, the list comes down to 42 for Canadians and 33 for internationals.

• There are schools that have taken more in the fast - ie. Utah took in 3 internationals 2015-2016. They aren't included in this list as none made it last year with only 5 interviews. Or schools like Duke that took a couple for 2016 but none for 2017.
• Schools not listed here and listed 'accepts International/Canadian applications' are likely to just shred your application and take your $$ as donations.
• Chicago (Pritzker) apparently 'used' to be int-friendly. None made it for class matriculating 2016. Your call.

Wrote this up while dodging my PI's smoldering gaze at me, so there may be typos here and there. Point them out and I'd be happy to fix them up. Feel free to rip me apart if something's not true, and good luck.

[Serendi]

why the heck is **DELETED** keep showing up as deleted?? 

[武田信玄]

nice thread.

UVA i'm not sure if they really treat canadians as oos americans, i'll go down there today to confirm. nothing on their website that mentions it.

[Serendi]

17 minutes ago, 命运的羽毛 said:

nice thread.

UVA i'm not sure if they really treat canadians as oos americans, i'll go down there today to confirm. nothing on their website that mentions it.

Definitely, that'd be great. This is from a Med school admission booklet that my advisor showed me this year. According to that manual, UVA considers Canadian as OOS American. Not sure if it's still the case, but don't think it was that old...

[武田信玄]

3 hours ago, Serendi said:

Definitely, that'd be great. This is from a Med school admission booklet that my advisor showed me this year. According to that manual, UVA considers Canadian as OOS American. Not sure if it's still the case, but don't think it was that old...

Yeah I've always felt a little bit uncertain about "Canadian treated same as American" statement in certain med schools. Doesn't quite fit the whole political correct movement. Ppl might start ask questions like "Canadians don't pay tax to US government so why should they be treated differently than other foreigners?"

[mp99]

Are those GPA/MCAT scores the overall average, or the international average? 

[uncharted1114]

On 3/2/2018 at 10:29 AM, Serendi said:

Mayo - MN

• 3.85/513. US/Canadians only. 2 Canadian matriculants. Only for MN - AZ/FL dont take Canadians.

• CoA 330K. No aid available.

I would double-check this. I was accepted in the 2014-2015 cycle and I got close to a full-ride based on need, so unless their policy has changed recently, they have a ton of financial aid available for all students (including Canadians).

[bearpuppy]

I can confirm that Dartmouth's goal is to help you afford med school and they will offer loans (although the rates are higher than what you will get in Canada), after reviewing all of your income/parental information.

 

Also, I think Case Western Reserve University can be added back now... https://case.edu/medicine/admissions/application-process/international-student-faqs/

 

[Serendi]

On 3/2/2018 at 9:06 PM, mp99 said:

Are those GPA/MCAT scores the overall average, or the international average? 

Overall. You won't find a separate stat for International. 

On 3/4/2018 at 6:33 PM, uncharted1114 said:

I would double-check this. I was accepted in the 2014-2015 cycle and I got close to a full-ride based on need, so unless their policy has changed recently, they have a ton of financial aid available for all students (including Canadians).

Sorry for that! I didn't see anything about it on their website and made a mistake of crossing it off as no aid, oops

On 3/10/2018 at 9:54 AM, bearpuppy said:

I can confirm that Dartmouth's goal is to help you afford med school and they will offer loans (although the rates are higher than what you will get in Canada), after reviewing all of your income/parental information.

 

Also, I think Case Western Reserve University can be added back now... https://case.edu/medicine/admissions/application-process/international-student-faqs/

 

Nice of them to be back..and I also see CCLCM accepting Int' applications, too. I know Case traditionally accepted number of Canadians before. Do you know if any Canadians are in CCLCM? It would suck if they end up like 'accept Canadians' but end up not matriculating any. 

[DrMeme]

On 3/2/2018 at 10:29 AM, Serendi said:

Washington University @ STL

• 3.89/521. 8 International matriculants.
• CoA 335K. Escrow requirement. No aid available.
• 90hr on USCAN.

I was under the impression that WashU gives scholarships/merit aid to Canadians.

 

[DrMeme]

On 3/2/2018 at 10:29 AM, Serendi said:

• Forget about Texas and California.

It's so sad that any Texas medical schools never interview or matriculate any international students. Their OOS tuition is so cheap, making it actually affordable to attend a USMD school.

[bearpuppy]

On 3/12/2018 at 10:02 AM, Serendi said:

Overall. You won't find a separate stat for International. 

Sorry for that! I didn't see anything about it on their website and made a mistake of crossing it off as no aid, oops

Nice of them to be back..and I also see CCLCM accepting Int' applications, too. I know Case traditionally accepted number of Canadians before. Do you know if any Canadians are in CCLCM? It would suck if they end up like 'accept Canadians' but end up not matriculating any. 

 

I'm at Case :).. hehe. (not dual). There are a few other Canadians in my class, but they are dual. They excluded internationals in their most recent application year, and then reversed that policy. This policy was implemented after the current M1 class, which also has at least 2 Canadians I think? 

 

Side note: my understanding is that CCLCM has always accepted international students. I don't know how many they have, unfortunately.

 

[Serendi]

On 3/12/2018 at 9:37 PM, DrMeme said:

I was under the impression that WashU gives scholarships/merit aid to Canadians.

 

If it does, then its not on their website! Might only be merit aid, though. I was reluctant to put merit aid as 'provides aid' as getting merit aid is not a guaranteed thing.

 

On 3/12/2018 at 9:46 PM, DrMeme said:

It's so sad that any Texas medical schools never interview or matriculate any international students. Their OOS tuition is so cheap, making it actually affordable to attend a USMD school.

yeah. looking at you Baylor. Be like other Texas schools and dont accept applications if you dont even plan to interview people! 

2 hours ago, bearpuppy said:

 

I'm at Case :).. hehe. (not dual). There are a few other Canadians in my class, but they are dual. They excluded internationals in their most recent application year, and then reversed that policy. This policy was implemented after the current M1 class, which also has at least 2 Canadians I think? 

 

Side note: my understanding is that CCLCM has always accepted international students. I don't know how many they have, unfortunately.

 

Saw that in your sig! Got any clue on why they're jumping back and forth? Will they opt out again next year? lol

[bearpuppy]

On 3/14/2018 at 1:37 PM, Serendi said:

If it does, then its not on their website! Might only be merit aid, though. I was reluctant to put merit aid as 'provides aid' as getting merit aid is not a guaranteed thing.

 

yeah. looking at you Baylor. Be like other Texas schools and dont accept applications if you dont even plan to interview people! 

Saw that in your sig! Got any clue on why they're jumping back and forth? Will they opt out again next year? lol

LOL - I think what happened is they thought this was the way to go given political climate, funding, number of good candidates applying, etc., but then the President of CWRU did not agree and doesn't want to lose the diversity that that brings to the table... so I suspect this is how it will be going forward.

[Serendi]

Updated this crap with newest MSAR data. Average stats have gone up across all applicants, and that means numbers also went up for our int-friendly schools. Also, international matriculation numbers have dropped in about half the schools (ie. Harvard's 16->6, Jeff's 9->5, Penn's 6->1, etc). Total number actually increase, however, as the other half remained same or increased, with some big jumps (Loma Linda's 10->17, Stony Brook's 3->9, Virginia's 2->8, Wayne State's 8->18). UCLA also enters with 9 internationals. 

 

Not sure whats going on with Kentucky. 

[BalkanRelations]

Really wish those schools in Texas would start taking Canadians since they actually have tuition fees comparable to some Canadian schools. 

What are the chances they decide to change their ways and actually do so for this upcoming cycle? Is it any use calling and asking them? 

[bearded frog]

Well texas even treats non-texan americans as second class applicants so unlikely. Even if they did you would have to pay a much higher tuition because it wouldn't be subsidized.

[JohnGrisham]

4 hours ago, bearded frog said:

Well texas even treats non-texan americans as second class applicants so unlikely. Even if they did you would have to pay a much higher tuition because it wouldn't be subsidized.

I know of 2 Canadians who were admitted to Texan schools

[bearded frog]

On 4/2/2018 at 11:07 PM, JohnGrisham said:

I know of 2 Canadians who were admitted to Texan schools

They must have been dual citizens or went to Baylor (AMCAS) or DO school at UNT because the rest require US citizenship/PR: https://www.tmdsas.com/medical/residency.html

[JohnGrisham]

10 hours ago, bearded frog said:

They must have been dual citizens or went to Baylor (AMCAS) or DO school at UNT because the rest require US citizenship/PR: https://www.tmdsas.com/medical/residency.html

One is at UNT, and is only Canadian, the other your right then must have been dual and is at another MD program.

[DrMeme]

On 2018-04-06 at 10:19 AM, JohnGrisham said:

One is at UNT, and is only Canadian, the other your right then must have been dual and is at another MD program.

Is UNTHSC/TCOM friendly to Canadians? I know 90% of their entering class are in-state residents, but what about the other 10%. Do Canadians matriculate to TCOM?

[JohnGrisham]

4 hours ago, DrMeme said:

Is UNTHSC/TCOM friendly to Canadians? I know 90% of their entering class are in-state residents, but what about the other 10%. Do Canadians matriculate to TCOM?

Canadians have matriculated in the past, but must have strong stats.

[DrMeme]

3 hours ago, JohnGrisham said:

Canadians have matriculated in the past, but must have strong stats.

What kind of stats would be considered as "strong"? According to TCOM, the average GPA was 3.63, sGPA was 3.53 and the MCAT score was 506.

[JohnGrisham]

3 hours ago, DrMeme said:

What kind of stats would be considered as "strong"? According to TCOM, the average GPA was 3.63, sGPA was 3.53 and the MCAT score was 506.

Above that. International students usually require well above the posted averages.

 

[dragon]

How about NEW JERSEY two medical schools?They accept international students too