d123123 Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 Did any of you guys take the practice tests on mcc.ca? Are they similar to the one your school provided? The results PDF doesn't mention what scores are considered average, just tells you to work on your weak areas (gee, thanks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md2018plz Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 4/24/2018 at 1:46 PM, d123123 said: Did any of you guys take the practice tests on mcc.ca? Are they similar to the one your school provided? The results PDF doesn't mention what scores are considered average, just tells you to work on your weak areas (gee, thanks). Yeah I paid the $100 to do one. Scored 71. Thought I did better. Similar to the one via my school. Exact same PDF result of this idiotic table that actually tells you nothing. Don't understand who is in charge of this but they are doing a very poor job at ensuring graduating medical students are competent. If you want us to know things, show us the correct answer after we're done! #freetheanswers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d123123 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 hours ago, md2018plz said: Yeah I paid the $100 to do one. Scored 71. Thought I did better. Similar to the one via my school. Exact same PDF result of this idiotic table that actually tells you nothing. Don't understand who is in charge of this but they are doing a very poor job at ensuring graduating medical students are competent. If you want us to know things, show us the correct answer after we're done! #freetheanswers Was your school score similar? Do we have any clue how these correlate with the QE1 score? Is a 70 amazing or is it terrible or in between? I got a similar score to you and wish we had a frame of reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F508 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Unfortunately, I don't think there's any way of knowing what the score correlates to.. The calculation for the actual exam is complicated, they didn't even explain it at all in their video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md2018plz Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/25/2018 at 8:54 PM, d123123 said: Was your school score similar? Do we have any clue how these correlate with the QE1 score? Is a 70 amazing or is it terrible or in between? I got a similar score to you and wish we had a frame of reference. Yes very similar. I counted the questions and they broke down into: 30% PHEO 25% obgyn 15% peds 15% outpatient 10% psych 5% internal medicine/surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edict Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 4/26/2018 at 1:28 PM, md2018plz said: Yes very similar. I counted the questions and they broke down into: 30% PHEO 25% obgyn 15% peds 15% outpatient 10% psych 5% internal medicine/surgery Wow this breakdown shows how sad the state of our medical education is in.... Tullius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluberblubo Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Is PHEO -> public health and ethics? I tried searching for the term, but I couldn't find what it actually stands for Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchEnemy Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, skyuppercutt said: Is PHEO -> public health and ethics? I tried searching for the term, but I couldn't find what it actually stands for Thanks in advance I believe it is usually termed PHELO, for Public Health, Ethics and Legal Organization. Bluberblubo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vascular Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 I took the exam yesterday Felt like I had a good chunk of Internal Medicine on the exam for me and not very much OB/GYN. Felt like the patient were either geriatric population or pediatric. A good chunk of my CDM was obgyn though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DermJuly2018PGY1 Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 My exam felt like it was almost 25% PHELO and maybe 5% IM... Lots of office-based FM topics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1972 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 3 hours ago, DermJuly2018PGY1 said: My exam felt like it was almost 25% PHELO and maybe 5% IM... Lots of office-based FM topics Yep agreed, a lot of FM stuff. I also found the whole exam to be quite vague. Didn’t enjoy that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DermJuly2018PGY1 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, K1972 said: I also found the whole exam to be quite vague. Didn’t enjoy that The CDMs were definitely vague... You can lose out on a big chunk of your points if you can't come up with one diagnosis based on their super vague and poorly summarized clinical case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1972 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 31 minutes ago, DermJuly2018PGY1 said: The CDMs were definitely vague... You can lose out on a big chunk of your points if you can't come up with one diagnosis based on their super vague and poorly summarized clinical case This is exactly how I felt. Anyone actually know what happens if we don’t pass? Is it true that we can’t prescribe meds..that would be a pretty rough way to start R1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goleafsgochris Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 In Ontario nothing happens, but you need to pass it before writing Part 2. I know a girl who failed and said that no one in her program found out, to the point that she took a "vacation week" in October of her first year to write it again. She said she didn't study at all the first time because she had heard it was a joke, and passed comfortably the second time after studying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1972 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, goleafsgochris said: In Ontario nothing happens, but you need to pass it before writing Part 2. I know a girl who failed and said that no one in her program found out, to the point that she took a "vacation week" in October of her first year to write it again. She said she didn't study at all the first time because she had heard it was a joke, and passed comfortably the second time after studying. Good to hear! Anyone know how it works in Quebec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinPete Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just wrote the exam last week. Walked out of the exam with a general feeling of doom and dread and have been having nightmares about failing. The sad part is that I actually studied super hard for it too. The exam was so vague and random that I am not even sure if studying was worth it. Does anyone feel this way? Can't believe we have to wait until July to find out about our scores. On a separate note, does anyone know what the fail rate amongst CMGs are ? I heard from my school that 10% of our class fail every year. 1 hour ago, K1972 said: Good to hear! Anyone know how it works in Quebec? In Quebec, if you go to one of the French schools, you can't graduate without passing the LMCC. I heard residency is delayed. If you go to McGill you can still graduate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DermJuly2018PGY1 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, PenguinPete said: On a separate note, does anyone know what the fail rate amongst CMGs are ? I heard from my school that 10% of our class fail every year. 10% seems quite high; would you mind sharing what school, or is that too much of a DDoS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1972 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 3 hours ago, PenguinPete said: Just wrote the exam last week. Walked out of the exam with a general feeling of doom and dread and have been having nightmares about failing. The sad part is that I actually studied super hard for it too. The exam was so vague and random that I am not even sure if studying was worth it. Does anyone feel this way? Can't believe we have to wait until July to find out about our scores. On a separate note, does anyone know what the fail rate amongst CMGs are ? I heard from my school that 10% of our class fail every year. In Quebec, if you go to one of the French schools, you can't graduate without passing the LMCC. I heard residency is delayed. If you go to McGill you can still graduate. Thanks for the info! That’s pretty rough for those of us at the French schools. For those at McGill, are you still allowed to prescribe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F508 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Um that is not true for all French schools.. According to the MCC presentation, it's only ULaval and Sherbrooke that still counts the LMCC as part of their graduation criteria. However, even that isn't true. Starting this year, the LMCC does not count as a criteria promotion at Sherbrooke. So if you go to a French school, go check your university's promotion criteria for peace of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arztin Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 I know as a fact that McGill does not take the LMCC into account for graduation, since there are always a few who don't want to practice medicine after. When it comes to prescriptions, I'm not sure, but I had my resident number from the CMQ before I even wrote the LMCC. So I GUESS you can prescribe? (I'm not 100% certain). Edit: does anyone know when the results will be released? I hope I didn't fail this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F508 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Released after we start residency (sometime in July) since they changed a bunch of things this year. I've heard that you can still prescribe without being co-signed and that no one knows you failed. What do the students that don't practice medicine do with their MDs? Do they do medicine related things or something completely unrelated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d123123 Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Got my score today. 263 as a pass. I got a 75 on the practice test. Not sure if they're supposed to correlate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arztin Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Passed a tiny bit above the mean. Apparently the average is 250 and the standard deviation is 30. In the practice test I had 64 in the MCQ and 85 in the CDM for those who wondered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arztin Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 The SOR includes a total score, the pass score and final result (e.g. pass, fail). The total score is reported on a scale ranging from 100 to 400 with a mean of 250 and a standard deviation of 30 based on all spring 2018 results. The current pass score is 226 and was established by a panel of physician experts from across the country following a rigorous standard setting exercise in June 2018. https://mcc.ca/research-and-development/score-interpretation/ Organomegaly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organomegaly Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 16 hours ago, d123123 said: Got my score today. 263 as a pass. I got a 75 on the practice test. Not sure if they're supposed to correlate. Arztin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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