trymeover Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 1. If somebody had a 3.80 OMSAS GPA at the start of 4th year apps for American Schools, is that an un-competitive figure to gain admission? I tried to look up people who got into American Meds and their stats on the forum, I believe the lowest undergrad GPA I saw was 3.83, but this guy did his masters after that undergrad GPA to get into Wayne. But I'm still unsure as to whether I'm correct in assuming that a 3.80 probably won't be competitive for admission. Help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a41 Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 What's your MCAT score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
token Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Yeah once your GPA is around 3.7 I'd worry about the MCAT more. No school is going to care if someone has a 3.83 versus a 3.9, but they will care if you have a 32 vs. a 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymeover Posted April 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 What's your MCAT score? Gonna write it soon, I'm gonna have to work twice as hard now to get a better score on it though as my predicted GPA is 3.80ish. P.S. Aren't you a WayneMeds student a41? I guess you sort of have better insight as to what type of MCAT numbers would be needed for a high chance of admission with a 3.80ish? (To Wayne at least) Yeah once your GPA is around 3.7 I'd worry about the MCAT more. No school is going to care if someone has a 3.83 versus a 3.9, but they will care if you have a 32 vs. a 35. How do you know this stuff? Like how do you know the cutoff for where there isn't much of a difference in numbers? Like 3.80 vs. 3.90 is no big deal, but 3.75 vs. 3.80 is a big deal?.. or something like that. Same with MCAT, like there's a huge difference between 32 and 35, but no biggie between 35 and 39? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastriss Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 http://premed101.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymeover Posted April 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 http://premed101.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33027 Man, I read over that before posting. But I felt it wasn't that specific to my question. I mean, obviously 3.0 to 3.5 is a bigger difference than 3.5 to 4.0, but I'm talking about what type of MCAT and other stuff is needed with a 3.80 for a high chance of admission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a41 Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I'd be confident with a balanced 32+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_gooner Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Man, I read over that before posting. But I felt it wasn't that specific to my question. I mean, obviously 3.0 to 3.5 is a bigger difference than 3.5 to 4.0, but I'm talking about what type of MCAT and other stuff is needed with a 3.80 for a high chance of admission. i'm in your position too, i have around a 3.75-3.8 (pending this term) and writing the MCAT in july... and i would love to find a concrete answer to this as far as i can tell from this forum and SDN, around 3.7 gpa and then you need at the very least a 30Q on the MCAT this is just considering what i've personally seen on this forum, so it's nothing to base your application by ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 http://premed101.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33027 Wouldn't 3.5 cGPA be a bit low for Cdns applying? I ask, as I suppose you'd need to be quite competitive against the US applicants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_gooner Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Wouldn't 3.5 cGPA be a bit low for Cdns applying? I ask, as I suppose you'd need to be quite competitive against the US applicants? That's competitive for Americans, I would assume we would need 3.7+ to be competitive there, and that's with a good MCAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
token Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 A 3.5 is a bit low, but a 3.8 is fine. American schools just do not care about GPA nearly as much as they do the MCAT. Especially if you're coming from a Canadian school that they've likely never heard of. If you don't believe me go search on MDApplicants.com. There is virtually no difference in average success once you go above a 3.8. At that point other factors come into play. A higher MCAT score however always improves chances of admission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymeover Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 A 3.5 is a bit low, but a 3.8 is fine. American schools just do not care about GPA nearly as much as they do the MCAT. Especially if you're coming from a Canadian school that they've likely never heard of. If you don't believe me go search on MDApplicants.com. There is virtually no difference in average success once you go above a 3.8. At that point other factors come into play. A higher MCAT score however always improves chances of admission. Token, you're so wise, haha. For some reason your posts just emanate a sense of wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 A 3.5 is a bit low, but a 3.8 is fine. American schools just do not care about GPA nearly as much as they do the MCAT. Especially if you're coming from a Canadian school that they've likely never heard of. If you don't believe me go search on MDApplicants.com. There is virtually no difference in average success once you go above a 3.8. At that point other factors come into play. A higher MCAT score however always improves chances of admission. Thanks! I assume that's Cdn grades converted to the US scale and, also, both science GPA and all other GPA should be in that range when calculated seperately? Time to get an awesome MCAT score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
token Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Token, you're so wise, haha. For some reason your posts just emanate a sense of wisdom. hahaha halcyon yeah I think most people here's sGPAs are more like 3.9+ but if you're in the general region I'm sure it would be fine. Personally my undergrad already grades under an American style system so I don't know how the conversions work. Also you might want to consider your "grade trend." It looks better if you started with 3.7s your first year up to 4.0s your third year than the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Anything above 3.7 is great for the states. The MCAT matters way more anyways (32 should be the baseline for US). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4lyfe Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 How about a 3.65? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbjones Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 How about a 3.65? If you supplement that with a great MCAT score and apply early I am sure you will have a great chance with that gpa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journey Man Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 3.8 OMSAS GPA? It could be higher on the AMCAS scale depending on which school you went to. For example, my GPA jumped 0.16 after going from OMSAS to AMCAS In the states, anything above 3.6 for GPA and above 32 is considered quite competitive. Really competitive is 3.8+ and 35+. So if you have above 3.6 on AMCAS, I would worry about demolishing the MCAT and making sure you have solid clinical experiences to put down on your application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_gooner Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 If you supplement that with a great MCAT score and apply early I am sure you will have a great chance with that gpa. how early is early for applying to the US? i'm writing the MCAT for the first time in early August... wont have the results in time, will that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAS Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 that may be a bit late gooner... depending on your stats i wrote it in early august and my results got delayed until the end of sept (damn you aamc!) so i wasn't complete at most schools til the end of oct. with a 3.6/31P (balanced), I got 1 interview which I declined (Wayne state is too expensive for me). i'll be applying again this year in early june and hopefully have more luck unless you have particularly good stats (3.8+ gpa with loads of clinical exp and plan to get 35+ on the mcat), i'd avoid applying later than sept. It was a huge huge huge waste of money for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4lyfe Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 how about a 3.6 35 mcat and apply at the end of august? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree999 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Who really knows? It's easy to say an applicant is theoretically "competitive", but this is all a fine balance of GPA, MCAT, extra-curriculars, work experience, clinical exposure, essay, reference letters, when you apply, where you apply, who reads your application, who interviews you, the degree of randomness inherent in the process, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4lyfe Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I think Ian Wong might know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest viscous Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 how about a 3.6 35 mcat and apply at the end of august? get that 35 first then we can tell when to apply .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00b Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 you can submit your primary without the mcat in yet but it wont be verified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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