Smurfette Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I've heard that Queen's is planning on changing around it's curriculum. I'm wondering whether anyone knows: (1) what those changes are (in particular, any changes to when clerkship starts and (2) when those changes will be in place (will it be for next year?). Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie99 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Queen's IS looking at changing its curriculum - in particular to start clerkship at the start of 3rd year instead of in the middle (thereby giving students 2 full years of clerkship), but this change will most likely NOT be in effect for the class of 2011. However, keep in mind that although Queen's starts its clerkship later, we start clinical skills within the 1st 2 weeks of class, and we don't have to come back to the classroom after our clerkship has started, so in a lot of ways it works itself out pretty well! christa queens2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webshy Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Queen's IS looking at changing its curriculum - in particular to start clerkship at the start of 3rd year instead of in the middle (thereby giving students 2 full years of clerkship), Is Queen's looking at removing the first semester of science review, or speeding everything up, so that they still have the first semester of review plus all of the other classes prior to the end of the 2nd year? Thanks for the information. Elaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie99 Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 I think they are looking at shrinking the review semester (aka Phase I (aka phase fun as its the best phase to have a life in!)), but to be honest, I'm not sure. A lot of different ideas have been floating around. Either way, its not going to be for at least another year, and I suspect more like 2. Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathcliff Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Is Queen's looking to make this change because they find that the clerkship is, in fact, too short? Or because they find that people think that way and turn down offers? Or are they changing it for different reasons altogether? Love the name phase-fun. If they change curriculum, tell them to keep the whole backpack idea going. I'd accept an offer at Queen's meds just for one of those rugged things alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie99 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Oh the backpacks will be there - never fear. As for the curriculum change, I'm really not sure what is driving that, other than the fact that clerkship is where the big learning happens so the longer the better. Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katerade Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 whats this backpack thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahone Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 As for the curriculum change, I'm really not sure what is driving that That would almost certainly be an accreditation issue. In other words, it *WILL* be done. Probably stems from the last curriculum change that Queen's "implemented" (read: bollocksed up) and have been tweaking ever since. This isn't a new initiative, it has been an issue of discussion in the Faculty for several years now...and hopefully the enormous effort of analysis will result in a relatively smooth transition when the time comes. Stay tuned, by the way, for the results of the LCME accreditation review...should be announced springtime I believe. k PS the backpacks - I suspect - are those neat-o OMA-labeled jobbies that get handed out to med students each year. Rugged is an understatement! I've seen those take some serious abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 PS the backpacks - I suspect - are those neat-o OMA-labeled jobbies that get handed out to med students each year. Rugged is an understatement! I've seen those take some serious abuse I would just like to say that the classes of 2008 (or 2007 at Mac and UofC) got the shaft on the CMA backpacks. Hardly anyone in my class still uses their pack because they fell apart so quickly! (the straps ripped). I see 4th years and residents still carrying theirs. The '09 and '10 ones are pretty nice too. FYI all students in Canada get the bags courtesy of the CMA and the provincial med association. They are a handy way to recognize your classmates in the first few weeks of first year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webshy Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Queen's IS looking at changing its curriculum - in particular to start clerkship at the start of 3rd year instead of in the middle (thereby giving students 2 full years of clerkship), but this change will most likely NOT be in effect for the class of 2011. However, keep in mind that although Queen's starts its clerkship later, we start clinical skills within the 1st 2 weeks of class, and we don't have to come back to the classroom after our clerkship has started, so in a lot of ways it works itself out pretty well!christa queens2010 Have there been any more announcements on the curriculum change for Queen's? Is the plan still to change the curriculum for September? Elaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medhopeful Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I would just like to say that the classes of 2008 (or 2007 at Mac and UofC) got the shaft on the CMA backpacks. Hardly anyone in my class still uses their pack because they fell apart so quickly! (the straps ripped). I see 4th years and residents still carrying theirs. The '09 and '10 ones are pretty nice too. FYI all students in Canada get the bags courtesy of the CMA and the provincial med association. They are a handy way to recognize your classmates in the first few weeks of first year! Yeah, to add to that, people in the 2011 class found out the hard way that the backpacks are also not waterproof >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuantum Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Those backpacks are kind of lame...small and not as durable as the dakine one I still use. I've opted to put my laundry soap and bleach in there instead...it's really good for carryng those. Nonetheless though, very good at identifying your classmates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webshy Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Queen's IS looking at changing its curriculum - in particular to start clerkship at the start of 3rd year instead of in the middle (thereby giving students 2 full years of clerkship), but this change will most likely NOT be in effect for the class of 2011. However, keep in mind that although Queen's starts its clerkship later, we start clinical skills within the 1st 2 weeks of class, and we don't have to come back to the classroom after our clerkship has started, so in a lot of ways it works itself out pretty well!christa queens2010 Does anyone have any updates on the curriculum changes in store for 2008? All I could find on the website was the following information: The need for curriculum renewal has been identified and two years of planning have been invested. A major overhaul in the curriculum will take several more years to develop and implement. Curricular renewal and revision has been slowed by the need to accommodate substantial expansion, regional distribution and other innovations in the medical program. The structure and planning bodies are in place to generate pedagogically sound recommendations within the next 12 months, for implementation to begin in 2008.[/Quote] Source: http://meds.queensu.ca/undergrad/assets/2007_self_study_recs__responses_1_.pdf Page 4-5 Thanks for the information. Elaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webshy Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Has anyone heard anything on the proposed curriculum changes for 2008? Specifically, I'm interested if there are going to be any changes to the first term and/or the clerkship schedule. Thanks for your help. Elaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webshy Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Was any information on the proposed curriculum changes discussed during the first interview weekend? Any updates? Thanks! Elaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Whoa, did I just see somebody say those backpacks are lame?? I will just say that I love the backpacks, they are very comfortable and I actually find they have more than enough room. Plus, the ones we got (2010s) are a nice colour, unlike the puke green 2011s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epigal Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 However, keep in mind that although Queen's starts its clerkship later, we start clinical skills within the 1st 2 weeks of class, and we don't have to come back to the classroom after our clerkship has started, so in a lot of ways it works itself out pretty well!christa queens2010 I have a quick question about this. At my interview, I asked some current students about starting clerkship later than other schools. The answer I got was that you start clinical skills in the first 2 weeks, and the clerkship length is actually the same as other schools.....just later. From what I understand, there are other schools (eg UofT) that start clinical skills also in the first couple of weeks...but clerkship starts at the beginning of 3rd year. Could someone clarify for me if the length of clerkship is the same as other schools? Does this impact making your matching decisions at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest begaster Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 I asked about possible curriculum changes by September, and was told by the doctor-professor interviewing me that there was basically no chance in hell it would be implemented by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindersley Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I know at Queens, clinical skills begin right smack in first year, which I think is awesome . But by clinical skills does that actually mean going to a hospital and shadowing doctors/ interacting with patients? or is it merely a course about clinical skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaymcee Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Clinical skills is not simply shadowing a doctor. Those are called observerships, and they are something you do on your own time. By clinical skills, we mean a course about how to take histories and perform physical examinations, but the three-hour class (in the first semester, at least) is divided into one hour of lecture about a topic, followed by two hours of hands-on practice. A "lab", so to speak. These practice sessions take place within a clinical skills learning centre, and about 2/3 of them (especially those with physical exams) have either standardized or volunteer patients there to help you learn. In the second semester of first year, it's generally three hours of practice, seeing patients in the hospitals, long-term care facilities, as well as our clinical education centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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