The Law Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I suck at it! Anybody got some good notes or websites they want to direct me to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sv3 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I suck at it! Anybody got some good notes or websites they want to direct me to? i think i read another post of yours. Using Ek is terrible for the first part. You'll notice their first chapter was very brief. They spent one page on stereochem and said its not important. I'd reccommend another book. I used TPR and it was good. If your gen chem nomenclature is good this should suffice. Ek is fine for reactions and stuff, but the first chapter is brutal in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 i think i read another post of yours. Using Ek is terrible for the first part. You'll notice their first chapter was very brief. They spent one page on stereochem and said its not important. I'd reccommend another book. I used TPR and it was good. If your gen chem nomenclature is good this should suffice. Ek is fine for reactions and stuff, but the first chapter is brutal in my opinion. Yeah, it is pretty brutal... they're skipping a tonne of things, I'm definitely going to have to supplement this stuff. I'm doing it more for a refresher though, the first stuff is pretty basic orgo. I just read the answers to the questions I did and the question that got me posting this thread says "Answer B is improperly named" lol, no wonder I couldn't draw it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sv3 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Yeah, it is pretty brutal... they're skipping a tonne of things, I'm definitely going to have to supplement this stuff. I'm doing it more for a refresher though, the first stuff is pretty basic orgo. I just read the answers to the questions I did and the question that got me posting this thread says "Answer B is improperly named" lol, no wonder I couldn't draw it!! hahaha bloody Ek. Yeah the nomenclature didn't seem bad on the MCAT for the most part but there's the odd hard one. I really think if your good on gen chem then this won't be bad at all. Also, as you keep getting through the book you'll obviously learn more about nomenclature if you make the effort to focus on it in addition to the actual topic covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 hahaha bloody Ek. Yeah the nomenclature didn't seem bad on the MCAT for the most part but there's the odd hard one. I really think if your good on gen chem then this won't be bad at all. Also, as you keep getting through the book you'll obviously learn more about nomenclature if you make the effort to focus on it in addition to the actual topic covered. I'll definitely do a bit more practice, to brush up on my skills, a few examples and I'll probably be good to go. I'm going over TPR to make sure I'm not missing any info that was excluded from EK. The first chapter borrows heavily from GChem, like you said, so I'm not too worried about it. Although, I wish I did a bit better on the practice questions (was getting between 6 and 7/8 on them). STUPID EK though... I just couldn't for the life of me draw that molecule because it wasn't making any sense - lol, thank God it was an intentional "throw you off your game" answer on their part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sv3 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I'll definitely do a bit more practice, to brush up on my skills, a few examples and I'll probably be good to go. I'm going over TPR to make sure I'm not missing any info that was excluded from EK. The first chapter borrows heavily from GChem, like you said, so I'm not too worried about it. Although, I wish I did a bit better on the practice questions (was getting between 6 and 7/8 on them). STUPID EK though... I just couldn't for the life of me draw that molecule because it wasn't making any sense - lol, thank God it was an intentional "throw you off your game" answer on their part. wait until they are just plain wrong and don't tell you......nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 That's just evil!! I might have found one of those already. Although, I have to admit - if you have some background in the topic, it sure does a good job of simplifying concepts and helping you focus on key points. EK physics/chem saved my life last time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChexMix Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 yeah I hear you about EK orgo, it skips a lot of things, but it is good to get a sense of the big picture. If you are looking for supplemental books, I felt ORGANIC CHEMISTRY AS A SECOND LANGUAGE (KLEIN) was helpful, and I had never taken orgo before. I also got the Berkeley review books for orgo, which were really detailed and helpful. I found them to be helpful than TPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sv3 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 That's just evil!! I might have found one of those already. Although, I have to admit - if you have some background in the topic, it sure does a good job of simplifying concepts and helping you focus on key points. EK physics/chem saved my life last time around. i hadn't done first year sciences since 1999......i needed all the freakin help i could get!! Ek made nice coasters............expensive but colorful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123coco Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 For Organic I found the Biological review by princeton to do a very thorough job....things that I didn't fully comprehend in Org I just started to click for me after reading their note. good luck ________ Medical Marijuana Grow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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