Guest Confused Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 hey ppl great forum i am really lost as to what to take next year i am currently in 1st year at UT taking bio, calc, philosophy, comp sci, and geography and eventually i would like to apply to med skools in ontario i was admitted into life sciences but i am not taking the 1st year chem course because i thought i was changing to comp science program my dillema now is that i am kinda stuck in the middle because for me to get into CS i need to do a makeup math course in the summer and i definately need chem if i am to get into life sciences here are some possible options for next year 1. do a makeup course in the summer and get into CS pros: all my extracurricular activities up to now have been related to computers, great backup plan cons: weak bio/chem 2. do chem in the summer and get into life sciences pros: cookiecutter premed cons: could pose probs since it was done in summer 3. do chem in the 2nd year pros: not summer school cons: will i be behind by a year? most life science courses in 2nd year have 1st year chem as prerequisite your opinions and suggestions as to what i should take next year will be greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Akane200 Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Choose a major. Just pick one to be your primary major and the other to be a back up. Just one or the other. If sciences are your main area, then do sciences in summer and apply for CS with math make up course during second year. If the math make up course is not avail, just take MAT 137Y in second year, that's the required one anyways rite? If you like CS, then do the math in the summer and take chem in second year, and apply to a lifescience major (your second major) during or after 2nd year. This is UT afterall, and double majors make things flexible. I was doing a specialist (13.9 credits) + major (9 credits). Back up plans are good to have. You do have the 3rd option of taking both the chem and math courses in the summer (2 courses at once). It might eat up your whole summer but then you won't have to worry about this question anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MID Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Hey Akane, Got any figures on the number of immunologists (UT UG) in your class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Wong Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 I'm moving this out of the General forum to the Toronto forum Ian UBC, Med 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThugJaan Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 Hey, I believe Akane is in the OT4 class. For the most recentely admitted class, I know for sure that there are some immun. undergrads. It is impossible for us to know the exact number since we really do not know everyones major, or at least remember them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest x Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 hi, according to the omsas website/booklet graduate applicants to U of T are permitted to submit additional letters of reference directly to U of T. for those who have gone through the application procedure or others that are familiar with it, how many additional letters should one send? from who? any specific advice? thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kirsteen Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 Hi there, Regarding the liberty that grad students have to send extra letters, I believe at one point that the booklet stated that these letters should come from members of your thesis committee or graduate supervisor, or something along those sorts of graduate studies lines. However, when I applied last year, I chucked that advice out the window and took that prompt as an opportunity to pull out some stops. Thus, a host of extra letters were sent to support my application (although I was careful to try not to sacrifice quality for quantity). These came from: one of my best pals who is an Ob/Gyn; the counseling co-ordinator at the place I volunteer; my varsity squash coach; one of my MBA teammates, and finally, the Assistant Dean (and one of my profs) of my MBA program. In writing these down here, it appears excessive, but at the time, I didn't wish to hold anything back in the application process. Thankfully, I did receive some feedback from Admissions at UT regarding my application and (phew!) they weren't turned off by the number of letters that came in--supposedly the Letter of Ref section mark of my application was excellent. (Not that it bloody well worked, mind you!) In any case, given that the LoR score still factors in to the ultimate selection of undergrad MD candidates, this year it's pretty much the same approach for me, with a few different letters thrown in, e.g., one from my Organic Chem prof from this summer and the Dean of Phys. Ed. However, this year I feel better with respect to the quantity that have been submitted given that MD/PhD applications require something on the order of ~43 reference letters to begin with. Overall, try to make sure that your letters, no matter who they come from, are relevant, truthful and effective. They do not have to be written by Deans nor professors nor other illuminati to be good. As my Orgo prof stated this summer, "Well, I can write you one of three letters: a so-so letter, a good letter, or one that works"! Hopefully the wee bugger, and your LoR writers, go for the latter! Good luck, Kirsteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Akane200 Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 Hey, I think that the ref letters for grad apps responses are in the wrong thread. :b Anyways, about UT undergrad IMM students getting into med here, I wouldn't really like to hazard to estimate the numbers since I don't know. However, I do know quite a number of IMM students that are in my class and in upper years (but there are also lots of ppl from microbio, human bio, and other U of T life sci depts). Are you asking about the myth that immunology students are favored (that rumour has been around since I was in undergrad)? There is absolutely no basis for that. It just may be that students with higher grades choose and get into immunology and then move on to medicine very naturally (since they had high grades to begin with). However, in our class, I don't think that there were more IMM students than any other of the life sciences. If anything, I think we had more human bio majors (but, that's only from the people I know; so don't quote me). The same goes for the Trinity College myth. It's true that of the proportion of U of T undergrads at UT meds, a large proportion come from Trinity, but it's NOT because of the college. It's because lots of students with high grades choose Trinity for undergrad as their first choice, and that it's not surprising that these same students do well later on in undergrad and move onto medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wrong thread Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 can you explain why you think that the grad apps responses are in the "wrong thread" thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strider2004 Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 Akane, When did you graduate from Trinity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Wong Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 Further responses regarding grad apps should be directed here, so that the original undergrad topic can be discussed on this thread. Thanks all... Grad app thread: pub44.ezboard.com/fpremed101frm6.showMessage?topicID=90.topic Ian UBC, Med 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WHOAREWE Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Akane, everything you said about those two myths is true. Trinity has the highest entering GPA and supports the most competitive life sci program, IMM. By the way, did you graduate from Trin with H.Bachelor in IMM? If you did, then you are my INSPIRATION! (I'm a second year IMM student from TRIN). Anyways, I just felt the need to add one little comment here. I don't think that a 15 year old or a high school student should post messages asking about entering undergrad here. THIS IS A PREMED FORUM FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Wong Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Heya, Welcome to the forums. My vision here for building these forums was a place for people at all points along the premed and med school path to meet and talk with each other. I think people in high school have legitimate questions that many of you undergrads can help answer, in the same vein that many undergrad premeds have questions that us med students can answer. As a result, if medicine is a current or future goal for you, then these forums are available for your use, regardless of your academic background. Ian UBC, Med 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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