Guest Francesco1001 Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Does anyone know if the carving section on the test will be a simple derivative of the sample given in the test material (i.e. 90 degree cuts with varying length and thickness) or if there is a chance there may be some other type of anglular cuts or shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bad hombre Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 the actual dat is a lot more complicated than the sample they give you. on mine I had to carve a perfect equilateral triangle on one end (sort of like a key for a triangular key-hole) and a flute end on the other end. hope this helps. remember, don't freak out, fear and anxiety are your worst enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toothy Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 the university bookstore might have the DAT carving guide, which has diagrams to give you a better idea of what kind of shapes they can tell you to make. Not exactly worth $40 so if you just want a rough idea it's probably good to give it a quick perusal in the store instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AA Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 I've took DAT for twice, and the exact same craving pattern: a equailater triangle at one end, and i think with a flute end on the other side.... similar to what bad hombre mentioned. I think the key is try to approx for the best angle measurement and to get some good & clean cut ie. no chipping on the soap. I think the point of this craving is for them to see you can work well with your hand... so don't panic and take your time.... you'll have half an hour to finish... should be enough time. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toothy Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 I took the DAT 3 times, and different (but similar) designs each time. There was one which was a fluted into a square instead of a triangle. Not to be an advocate for the CDA gift shop but it is imperative to have a good handle on the characteristics of the soap! Chalk and wax are good substitutes for learning knife skills but that's about it. Buy their soap if you need practice. Soap can be flaky, and hard to measure and mark. Obviously the goal is to shave it fast but not too hurriedly as to have a large chunk fall out. All things aside, dental school lab work (even waxing) is different from soap carving and even if you are not handy with the soap it doesn't mean you will be bad at dentistry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tottihead Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Sorry, could you guys clarify on the fluted end?? Was it a fluted square? was it like one of those roman columns?? Sorry im just kinda confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rez32 Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Yeah, i'm even more confused; what does a fluted end mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guyver03 Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Fluted ends are like diagonal cuts, from the body of the soap to the end, which is either going to be a triangle or a square. The notch is like a 90 degree cut, making a triangle or a square "shaft" (don't know another term to describe it). Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rez32 Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 That does help, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tottihead Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 So, just to make sure ive got this, the fluted end(if it were a triangle) is like a pyramid? or is it just like a triangle prism (ie same shape when looking down, like in TFE the top and end view would be a triangle) Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coolguy3650 Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 As far as the pyramid and square go, does anyone knoe the dimensions for these shapes? I think to make an equalateral triangle, you would have to give the triangle sides of 1.2mm, but that is just a crude estimate. I'm having a tougher time trying to fingure out the measurements for the square. Thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rez32 Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 OMG, 1.2mm? How big are these soaps? I was picturing them to be the size of a regular bar of soap; I mean, for the CDA to charge $30 for 6 pieces of soap, I thought they'd be fairly big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toothy jr Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 heh, no that is likely a typo. If you have never done the carving you will be relieved to know that the soap is roughly the size and shape of a thick stick of chalk. As for the equilateral triangle, you should be able to figure out the sides with some high school trig given the radius of the cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coolguy3650 Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Sorry, I meant 12mm. As far as high school trig goes, I've forgotten all that. Can anyone give me a refresher lesson on how big a square has to be able to be circumscribed by a circle of given radius? If that's too much to ask, does anyone know a site where I can find this info? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pearlywhitesBC Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 I believe that they give you the dimensions of the square or triangle that you are supposed to carve. As for the equilateral triangle, I think that the example that I saw had sides that measured 14mm each (I'm pretty sure that they can vary this though). They can give different dimensions for the square as well - it's best to practice doing different measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Akenney Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 The carving on the Nov 03 DAT was only two edges of a triangle (14mm each) and the other side was fluted but not to a square, but a rectangle (it was only cut on two sides) I heard something about a previous year's DAT having a cut which was curved, but it is possible that the person who told me that misunderstood the diagram (they recieved a very low score which makes me believe that that was probably the case) But has anyone heard of any cuts which were curved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pearlywhitesBC Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 I've never ever seen a cut that was curved... The prep booklet that I used (from IQ publications) had an example where the end was rounded (kind of like a doorknob). I seriously doubt that they would actually use an example like this in a real test situation - it would be much to hard to mark!>: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pearly Whites Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 Hi AKenney! I interpreted the diagram same as your friend. Basically, it's a triangle, but they only want you to carve two instead of three sides. at least that's what i did! hope it's right! i havent gotten my score yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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