mysteryoflife Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I've tried the practice PAT from iq publication actually mimicking the test environment and got an 85% on it. If I convert this into the actual PAT score, what would my score be approximately? I know people do better on practice tests but if I score similarly on the actual DAT, would this be acceptable score for u of t? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarBlues Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 aren't IQ pubs supposed to be quite easy? If so (I've never done iqpubs before) but 85 would be a 19 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryoflife Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 omg....85 only converts into a 19?But when I wrote it last time i literally guessed every single TFE and pattern folding question and got a 18 (actually guessed). Do they bellcurve it or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msuneong Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 http://www.ivyglobal.ca/more/dat_estimate_score.pdf Note that IQ publications PAT has been stated to be easier than the real DAT, so the above estimate isn't necessarily accurate for IQ pubs. Not sure if its bell curved but it is a standardized test, so I'm sure they do something to try and have consistency between different testing dates (which might mean bell curving (up OR down) / eliminating certain questions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryoflife Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Thanks everyone! OK so I've also tried the DAT bootcamp and I scored something similar (slightly lower). The biggest problem I'm having is with the keyhole section... I think it's extremely tricky and depending on the angle of the 3D structure shown, it doesn't even look like it's drawn to scale. Does anyone have any tips for the keyhole section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarBlues Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 if you scored 85% on bootcamp you're good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryoflife Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 if you scored 85% on bootcamp you're good I got 83% to be accurate. But I'm so nervous now because I could barely finish the test on time and I spent so much time on the keyhole questions (~1min/Q)... I feel like they're impossible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dentsmiles Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 mysteryoflife, I'm not that great at keyholes either, but the biggest thing that helped me is to group the answer choices by view (i.e. top-down, side-side, front-back) and then eliminate answer choices based on features that are off (i.e. too long, too short, portions of the figures facing the wrong way, slanted sides that are too steep, etc.). So basically I answer the question by eliminating the wrong ones as opposed to 'choosing the right one'. Then I double check that the correct one is actually correct (if I have time). This seems time-consuming, and it is in the beginning, but it gets much quicker and easier with more practice (and usually gets you the right answer!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydogyy1 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I got 83% to be accurate. But I'm so nervous now because I could barely finish the test on time and I spent so much time on the keyhole questions (~1min/Q)... I feel like they're impossible... The keyhole on the real deal will be easier, do not fret! Take bootcamp keyholes as practice material because if you learn how to do them you will coast through the real ones. Some helpful advice: 1) Identify the 'easiest' face (front, top, end) to visualize, generate a rough idea of what it should look like in your head -- 2) Look to the answer representing that face (front, top end) -- a ) If there is only one answer representing that face, look to see if there's anything inconsistent. If there is, POE (process of elimination) it by crossing it out. b ) If there is more than answer representing that face -- your job became easier --> compare and contrast. The inconsistencies will be highlighted by seeing what they have in common and different. 3) Move on to the next face that's easiest to visualize, and repeat until your left with the best answer that makes sense. Ideally this process will take about 1-2 minutes per question, but you will get faster with practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteryoflife Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 The keyhole on the real deal will be easier, do not fret! Take bootcamp keyholes as practice material because if you learn how to do them you will coast through the real ones. Some helpful advice: 1) Identify the 'easiest' face (front, top, end) to visualize, generate a rough idea of what it should look like in your head -- 2) Look to the answer representing that face (front, top end) -- a ) If there is only one answer representing that face, look to see if there's anything inconsistent. If there is, POE (process of elimination) it by crossing it out. b ) If there is more than answer representing that face -- your job became easier --> compare and contrast. The inconsistencies will be highlighted by seeing what they have in common and different. 3) Move on to the next face that's easiest to visualize, and repeat until your left with the best answer that makes sense. Ideally this process will take about 1-2 minutes per question, but you will get faster with practice. Thanks everyone I am going to keep these in mind and do more practice. When we're writing the actual DAT, are we allowed to write on the test paper to eliminate wrong answers and stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydogyy1 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Thanks everyone I am going to keep these in mind and do more practice. When we're writing the actual DAT, are we allowed to write on the test paper to eliminate wrong answers and stuff? Yup absolutely you can write whatever on the exam booklet with the questions. The only thing that counts is what you bubble in the scantron answer sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msuneong Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Is the periodic table separate / can we rip it off? Also, assuming its the standard periodic table, no electronegativities given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydogyy1 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Is the periodic table separate / can we rip it off? Also, assuming its the standard periodic table, no electronegativities given? Yes I recall being able to rip off the periodic table, and it is a standard periodic table with no electronegativities given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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