ahmajo Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Hi there I am a first year med student (stressing about CaRMS already) and I heard today that research published BEFORE entering med school (i.e. in undergrad or during a previous grad degree) are not considered for CaRMS. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Does it depend on the program/school? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnuts Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 A couple of programs I applied to went through their scoring system for the for the paper application. There are points given for any catagory they can standardize (for example, awards generally don't give you any points as they can't be compared across schools). One program I know of scores research out of 5 points. You get 1 or 2 for having any research, 2-3 for having any clinical research, and 3-5 for clinical research relevant to the discipline (depending on how involved you were and the complexity of the research). So the short answer is yes. The type of research matters. Its also a good way to pick up points as, supposedly, few applicants have any clinical research while most have pre-clinical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I have never heard that research done before medical school does not count, although having relevant research is a bonus as stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014hopeful Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Sorry for the ignorance, but was is pre-clinical in contrast to clinical research? I'm also in first year and would love to know. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmajo Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Actually what I heard was any research (regardless of the field, clinical, basic, whatever) that you published before entering medical school was not considered when you apply for residency positions. But I guess I was misinformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 The use of pre-clinical and clinical in this thread seems to refer to two different ideas: pre-clinical in the sense of preclerkship (first two years of medical school), while clinical is used in the sense of the type of research (e.g. basic science, translational). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooty Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 One program I know of scores research out of 5 points. You get 1 or 2 for having any research, 2-3 for having any clinical research, and 3-5 for clinical research relevant to the discipline (depending on how involved you were and the complexity of the research). Which program is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octals Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I put research on my carms application from before and during medical school. The vast majority of my authorship was in disciplines other than my selected specialty. I'm currently going through the process of carms, and I've applied to a competitive specialty in which many programs specifically suggest research be done. I received interviews at almost every program in the country in spite of a significant proportion of it being done before med school and almost none of it in the specialty I've chosen. If I was going to do it over again I'd likely do the same. It allowed me to get a good look at different types of research and actually helped me in deciding on my specialty of choice. One thing you've got to realize early in medical school is that you can't know every program's scoring rubric for residency applications, although this doesn't stop many people from attemoting to do so throughout med school. Forget about the programs (especially early in med school), and just focus on improving the core domains of competency through extracurricular work (teaching, research, Canmeds roles) and you'll be ahead of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Thanks octals, great advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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