futureGP Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 http://www.cmaj.ca/content/185/2/E105.full Some debates on this one especially in the US. So essentially primary care docs charging a patient $1000~$2000 to accept them into their practice. Gives them 24/7 phone call access + instead of 10min visits, it's 30~80min visits with 2.5hr annual physicals. Whereas private health care insurance on average employer health insurance premium is $13375 for a family, $4824 for a single person(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_costs_in_the_United_States). Although that does include coverage in hospitals etc, it seems like concierge medicine can argue that they're not really creating a 2-tier health care system (which already exists in the US anyways). Based on the above article, it could seem like a way out for a lot of PCP in the US into a very lucrative practice that involves practicing really preventive medicine without the hassle of trying to fit patients into the tight schedules. According to the article, most docs carry between 100~425 patients each. with potential gross income between $100 000 and $850000. This is probably not gonna happen in Canada, but still. It's an interesting model to be aware of if you plan on going into primary care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renin Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I can see the convenience of this. I'd totally pay $1000 to allow me to see a doctor whenever I needed to - I put off a lot of health care needs for myself because I am not available during the times the doctors offices are open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I can see the convenience of this. I'd totally pay $1000 to allow me to see a doctor whenever I needed to - I put off a lot of health care needs for myself because I am not available during the times the doctors offices are open. I'd hate to be the doctor who's on 24/7 for all these phone calls, though. People will call you for ANYTHING at ANY TIME. GPs I've worked with had patients show up to the small town hospital ER at 2 AM for refills (despite there being evening clinic hours several times a week), call them at 3 AM to ask for advice about constipation, etc. Now imagine if everyone had paid $1000 out of their own pocket to have access to these GPs - the number of people who think it's ok to do it "because I paid for it!" would skyrocket. No amount of money is worth that, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markov79 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'd hate to be the doctor who's on 24/7 for all these phone calls, though. People will call you for ANYTHING at ANY TIME. GPs I've worked with had patients show up to the small town hospital ER at 2 AM for refills (despite there being evening clinic hours several times a week), call them at 3 AM to ask for advice about constipation, etc. Now imagine if everyone had paid $1000 out of their own pocket to have access to these GPs - the number of people who think it's ok to do it "because I paid for it!" would skyrocket. No amount of money is worth that, IMO. "no reward is worth this" - han solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureGP Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'd hate to be the doctor who's on 24/7 for all these phone calls, though. People will call you for ANYTHING at ANY TIME. GPs I've worked with had patients show up to the small town hospital ER at 2 AM for refills (despite there being evening clinic hours several times a week), call them at 3 AM to ask for advice about constipation, etc. Now imagine if everyone had paid $1000 out of their own pocket to have access to these GPs - the number of people who think it's ok to do it "because I paid for it!" would skyrocket. No amount of money is worth that, IMO. yeah truee but if u only have ~200 patients... it's not that badd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 yeah truee but if u only have ~200 patients... it's not that badd Except if those patients are paying for a service, they'll have no qualms about calling all the time for the smallest thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirurgus Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 There are similar clinics here in Canada, this is one example http://www.provital.ca/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_gooner Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 There are similar clinics here in Canada, this is one examplehttp://www.provital.ca/ That is interesting - wonder what they're billing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourning Cloak Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 There are similar clinics here in Canada, this is one examplehttp://www.provital.ca/ The first year annual fee is $3900! Maybe it's different if you're old and sick, but I can think of better things to do with four grand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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