lazyboy Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 The manual is out. http://wcmprod2.ucalgary.ca/mdprogram/files/mdprogram/Applicant%20Manual%20final%20July%2028%2011.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey_whiz Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 nice, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcv Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Its looks more professional than ever before. About time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonekid Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 It's nice to see that they're disclosing what they're asking the referees about the applicant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxcv Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 It's nice to see that they're disclosing what they're asking the referees about the applicant. Ya. I was very impressed with that. Though its quite obvious how medical school grades app and what they are lookign for in the interview... Its blazing on the CanMeds website (hahaha... I was about to write CARMS... gotta stop thinking about it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Research3r Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 ... Only verbal reasoning is used for the mcat. 3 months of studying and all I needed to do was study verbal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyboy Posted August 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 No. not actually, they do look at other MCAT score for the subjective review. It is just that they put more emphasis on the VR. That is, you should try to do well on the other part of MCAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gametime24 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I just get a page not found error :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyboy Posted August 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 okay, that is the new link http://wcmprod2.ucalgary.ca/mdprogram/files/mdprogram/Applicant%20Manual%20final%20Aug%202.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmr Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Thanks for the links. Couple of question on some of the changes in the U of C app: 1. UCAN (online app system) tells us to report best MCAT score set. However, what year range are the MCAT valid for? 2. What's the purpose of us reporting our previous addresses? Is it to determine rurality of applicants? 3. Anyone know if U of C adcom uses CEGEP grades (it's a Quebec thing) for their GPA calculations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyboy Posted August 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I suggest you go to Dr. Walker's blog, directly from the source. http://mdadmissions.ucalgaryblogs.ca/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnb88 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Haven't started the app yet, but I'm not sure which of my MCAT scores to use: 29Q- 8PS/11VR/10BS Or my most recent: 32R- 12PS/9VR/11BS My verbal is definitely better on my first one, but would putting my second score be better/help me more for the subjective part??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medbat Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 That's tricky. I remember reading in the FAQ that unless there is a drastic difference in the science scores, you should go with the higher VR MCAT. Given that your BS and writing scores are pretty similar, I'd go with the first MCAT if it were me... Also, saw your other post in the lounge- welcome to Toronto!!! Hope you are enjoying it here! Toronto is amazing. Welcome. Definitely go with the higher VR MCAT. The subjective is worth 10% total - so that includes course rigour, your background knowledge, and your MCAT all together. The VR on its own is also worth 10%. The bigger issue is that because they're standardizing the categories, that 9 might hurt you big time on the VR curve, but the decrease in subjective might not hurt you as badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonRunner Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Toronto is amazing. Welcome. Definitely go with the higher VR MCAT. The subjective is worth 10% total - so that includes course rigour, your background knowledge, and your MCAT all together. The VR on its own is also worth 10%. The bigger issue is that because they're standardizing the categories, that 9 might hurt you big time on the VR curve, but the decrease in subjective might not hurt you as badly. +1. With the emphasis on VR, I would definitely go with the higher VR MCAT. Especially if you've shown in other ways that you are "good" at the sciences (ie. high marks in the related courses you took at university). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyboy Posted August 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I actually have another suggestion, you may want to try to take the MCAT test again, if you can meet the deadline. Based on your score, you are capable of getting a higher MCAT score with nice VR as well. The worst case, as far as U of C is concerned, you can always use your first score if the rewrite doesn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apixaban85 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Well with a 9 in VR as an OOP student, here's hoping my GPA can pull me the heck up Edit: Errr with a 9 VR and 3.84GPA are the chances extremely slim of even getting a full file review? The way I see it, someone with a 10VR simply needs only a 3.34GPA to get ahead of me in the rankings. Should I bother applying this cycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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medbat Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 I actually have another suggestion, you may want to try to take the MCAT test again, if you can meet the deadline. Based on your score, you are capable of getting a higher MCAT score with nice VR as well. The worst case, as far as U of C is concerned, you can always use your first score if the rewrite doesn't work out. +1 This is the correct answer. You can absolutely meet the deadline for a re-write. This could really make it for you... no pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medbat Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Well with a 9 in VR as an OOP student, here's hoping my GPA can pull me the heck up Edit: Errr with a 9 VR and 3.84GPA are the chances extremely slim of even getting a full file review? The way I see it, someone with a 10VR simply needs only a 3.34GPA to get ahead of me in the rankings. Should I bother applying this cycle? Question: did you take into account normalization? Answer: Yes. Response: Wow! That's incredible that you calculated the standard deviations based on the graphs of previous years. You're awesome! Answer: No. Response: Then... normalization will save your butt here. Apply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apixaban85 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Question: did you take into account normalization? Answer: Yes. Response: Wow! That's incredible that you calculated the standard deviations based on the graphs of previous years. You're awesome! Answer: No. Response: Then... normalization will save your butt here. Apply! Hmm the way I read it was that normalization only comes into account when there's a full file review, no? In order to qualify for a full file review, an OOP needs to be in the top 200-250 of the OOP applicant pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medbat Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Hmm the way I read it was that normalization only comes into account when there's a full file review, no? In order to qualify for a full file review, an OOP needs to be in the top 200-250 of the OOP applicant pool The way I read it was that the issue is that MCAT and GPA have different breadths therefore, statistically, countering the percentages they wanted to set them at. Thus, I would assume they would try to fix this problem by normalizing at the start. It doesn't make sense to normalize MCAT and GPA during full file review only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apixaban85 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 The way I read it was that the issue is that MCAT and GPA have different breadths therefore, statistically, countering the percentages they wanted to set them at. Thus, I would assume they would try to fix this problem by normalizing at the start. It doesn't make sense to normalize MCAT and GPA during full file review only. Well sir, I just called them up and it appears you are correct *places hat in the ring* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmr Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 I agree with you that it is adcom's job to answer applicants' questions, however during some periods, it takes them longer than usual, or in the case of AMCAS, they never answer emails or tell me "to go eat a donut" if they can't resolve my questions over the telephone, after I have waited for over 1 hour. Sometimes, pm101 members are more knowledgeable. I used the search function, then figure that with some of the recent changes to U of C med this year, I wanted to ask someone in the know of the new admissions policies. I'm not sure how you viewed my post as an insult to pm101 or its members. Maybe you misunderstood. It is their job to answer your questions, not ours...especially when the questions have already be answered (use the search function), or have an answer that is listed in the schools application manual/FAQ. Probably isn't the best idea to insult the members of pm101. Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnb88 Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 That's tricky. I remember reading in the FAQ that unless there is a drastic difference in the science scores, you should go with the higher VR MCAT. Given that your BS and writing scores are pretty similar, I'd go with the first MCAT if it were me... Also, saw your other post in the lounge- welcome to Toronto!!! Hope you are enjoying it here! My only concern is my PS... I mean, my first attempt was TERRIBLE, but my second attempt was MUCH better (shocking how it went from my worst score by far, to my best score!). To me, a 4 point difference is HUGE :S. Toronto is great so far! So much traffic though! Kind of glad that the area I live in is VERY transit/walking friendly! I might not even need a car! Toronto is amazing. Welcome. Definitely go with the higher VR MCAT. The subjective is worth 10% total - so that includes course rigour, your background knowledge, and your MCAT all together. The VR on its own is also worth 10%. The bigger issue is that because they're standardizing the categories, that 9 might hurt you big time on the VR curve, but the decrease in subjective might not hurt you as badly. That makes sense and kind of what I was thinking... It just seems so counter-intuitive to go with such a lower score! Too I guess they get both scores no matter what, so maybe that would weigh in somehow for subjective? And thanks:) It does seem pretty good so far! I actually have another suggestion, you may want to try to take the MCAT test again, if you can meet the deadline. Based on your score, you are capable of getting a higher MCAT score with nice VR as well. The worst case, as far as U of C is concerned, you can always use your first score if the rewrite doesn't work out. +1 This is the correct answer. You can absolutely meet the deadline for a re-write. This could really make it for you... no pressure. I could meet the deadline to rewrite, but because I have had such a hectic summer moving, etc (I'm still not completely settled in to my new place. Haven't even been here a week yet!), it's really not feasible for me to write. Especially starting a new degree in September (where I need to do well to increase the weakest part of my app- my GPA). If I don't get in this year, I will definitely rewrite, but I think I'll give it one more year with these scores and see where I end up. Too bad you can't mix and match your MCATz! 34R? Heck yes! LOL Good luck everyone! I'll be starting my app as soon as I get stable internetz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cass Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Hey everyone, I've noticed that the Calgary online application system doesn't allow me to enter in the n ames of my courses but rather only allows me to choose the courses from a drop down menu...how would i go about classifying something like "Microbial biogeochemistry?" technically, it's classified as an environmental science course on my transcript but there's no option like that on the application. Similarly, I've got a course that's titled "Human Health and the Environment" and again, it's classified as an environmental science course on my transcript but there's no "environmental science" option in the drop down menu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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