So how much importance do you put for the money/women ?? (future male doctors)

[medigeek]

Of course some people are gonna jump in with the whole "money and sex is bad" crap. I just want to hear from the wiser people who realize life isnt too long and that fun in life > everything else.

 

So for future male doctors who will have that big MD status + big wallet status, how much importance are you putting on picking up chicks with ease, driving a lambo, etc etc ?

 

Personally I think any wise person would put 50% importance on the above for picking their career and the other 50% because of their interest in that field. Thus when combined, you have the best experience.

 

Thoughts?

[goleafsgochris]

Of course some people are gonna jump in with the whole "money and sex is bad" crap. I just want to hear from the wiser people who realize life isnt too long and that fun in life > everything else.

 

So for future male doctors who will have that big MD status + big wallet status, how much importance are you putting on picking up chicks with ease, driving a lambo, etc etc ?

 

Personally I think any wise person would put 50% importance on the above for picking their career and the other 50% because of their interest in that field. Thus when combined, you have the best experience.

 

Thoughts?

 

I would think 50% is not an unreasonable guess for where many guys are when they start med school.

 

The unfortunate part about that is by the time you really start making big money (assuming you are not a GP) you are in your early 30s, and the "using my dr status to pick up chicks" thing is not longer as enthralling as it seemed when you were 21. This is sort of a massively broad oversimplification of course lol, but as a 26year old 1st year resident in Toronto, it seems to hold sort of true in reality.

[future_doc]

Often I am told small men have big egos to compensate, $ and big cars are props that dont cut it for women who are real women. So Tarzan go find dumb Jane for a night and you will catch something contagious

 

Be careful what you wish for. If you want chicks become a bouncer @ a sleazy strip place. If you want $, go for investment banking not medicine.

 

Edit: The other day, at a red light, I came alongside a geek driving a long sports car, top down - there he was picking his nose, the only thing he can pick up is a koozie, how disgusting.

[goleafsgochris]

Often I am told small men have big egos to compensate, $ and big cars are props that dont cut it for women who are real women. So Tarzan go find dumb Jane for as night and you will catch something congtagious

 

Be careful what you wish for. If you want chicks become a bouncer @ a sleazy strip place. If you want $, go for investment banking not medicine.

 

^^^ I agree with you about the girls. If you want to meet attractive, easy women, there are many better ways to do it than by doing medicine--a club promoter or fitness instructor come to mind as infinitely easier and more effective ways to do this.

 

I will have to disagree with futuredoc about the $$. The people who say that making money is easier in XXXX field likely do not know many people who have tried to succeed in XXXX field. Investment banking is ruthlessly competative, is more stressful than med, and has a much lower success rate. In med, you know that once you get into school, you will at worst be making well above the 6-figure cutoff. There may be easier ways to make money, but I really dont buy that there are easier ways to be guaranteed a solid income for life.

[charmer08]

the definition of fun is diff for everyone...

 

when it comes to cars, bmw all the way

 

and how is money bad? You are earning it in the "good" way when you're a doc

[Wayward son]

So for future male doctors who will have that big MD status + big wallet status, how much importance are you putting on picking up chicks with ease, driving a lambo, etc etc ?

 

To each their own. For me - zero. I knew when I went back to school to attempt to get into medicine that I would never recoup the money I am losing. I could be wrong, but I suspect that if are putting your chips on medicine being the route to lots of chicks and a lambo you are going to be disappointed.

 

Yes, I am sure that a higher percentage of male MDs end up with a super hot chick and a lambo than the general population. But most of them have the intelligence and drive that would have made them "successful" if they had chosen a different path.

 

I know several MDs who think that becoming a doctor was not the right choice for them and that they would have actually enjoyed doing something else. Most continue because they have invested too much of their life in training and are finally making money. That is just my way of saying that I think "interest in the field" should be higher than 50%. You will likely spend much more time in the field than with the lambo.

[Clever]

It changes daily for me.. Right now it's at about 90% Why? Because the politics involved in medicine completely ruined it for me. I don't plan on driving a lambo and sleeping with a different woman every night, but the financial freedom and a good relationship would be great.

[aaronjw]

And how many of those shallow types with the prestigious (rollseyes) MD and high paying career end up in divorce? I know lots of them...

[Curi0user]

Honestly do not want to get into medschool for the title. I mean I guess it'd be nice to be such a positive role model in society and get recognition for it so easily because of the "dr" infront of my name, but it is nowhere CLOSE to being a significant factor in my decision about it. And that's the honest truth.

[thebouque]

If you want $, go for investment banking not medicine..

 

No. In medicine, in North America you're guaranteed to make a lot (even too much according to some).

[future_doc]

No. In medicine, in North America you're guaranteed to make a lot.

 

Quite true, but loose change compared to investment banking.

[future_doc]

^^^ I agree with you about the girls. If you want to meet attractive, easy women, there are many better ways to do it than by doing medicine--a club promoter or fitness instructor come to mind as infinitely easier and more effective ways to do this.

 

I will have to disagree with futuredoc about the $$. There may be easier ways to make money, but I really dont buy that there are easier ways to be guaranteed a solid income for life.

 

The above bold post has merit. You are correct too about women.

 

If an doctor goes for the hot chick here is a real life scenario of a doc I know in the US, a plastic surgeon making mega bucks in Florida. So he marries this chick and builds a 2nd home in another state, sending his wife to look after this project. Meanwhile the pool boy looks after the wife and he now lives with her in this home that she got as part of a multimilion dollar divorce settlement. She shared her favours and is now sharing her ex's money!

 

Go for a hot chick who is after $$ and your per pop payments will be far more than an expense escort agency with gorgeous hot chicks you can rent for the night. Oh, I forgot, men dont want to pay for it, so they buy an expensive car, have a downtown condo and impress the woman with what he has, a far, far more costly exercise than an escort. Go for a woman with beauty and brains, who doesn't need your things, who will only be interested in you, you are lucky if you capture her heart. Buying a woman is strictly temporary with a very limited shelf life. And she will tell the world all your secrets you shared with her. Hardly worth it.

[future_doc]

It changes daily for me.. Right now it's at about 90% Why? Because the politics involved in medicine completely ruined it for me. I don't plan on driving a lambo and sleeping with a different woman every night, but the financial freedom and a good relationship would be great.

 

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[Erk]

I think putting 50% importance on assuming your career will find you love is going to land you in a really poor relationship, and putting that much stock in thinking medicine is going to get you the nicest car in the block is going to leave you dissatisfied with your job.

 

I love the idea of being financially stable for the rest of my life, and if I were single I'd be pretty glad of my prospects right now, but if either of those things are more than happy sidelines to your real reasons for entering medicine, I'd take a long hard look at your career choice before signing on for the road ahead.

[medigeek]

I would think 50% is not an unreasonable guess for where many guys are when they start med school.

 

The unfortunate part about that is by the time you really start making big money (assuming you are not a GP) you are in your early 30s, and the "using my dr status to pick up chicks" thing is not longer as enthralling as it seemed when you were 21. This is sort of a massively broad oversimplification of course lol, but as a 26year old 1st year resident in Toronto, it seems to hold sort of true in reality.

 

well we still have 50 year olds hitting on young chicks in clubs, wishing they were the doctors driving the lambos. lolz... so being 30 probably isn't that bad. I have 3 uncles who are doctors and they've gone really overboard with the chicks, but I think they have the best of all worlds.

 

Didnt the "med student" status help you at all? And being a resident = doctor anyway... you dont really need a big wallet, jus have to pretend you have one

[medigeek]

Often I am told small men have big egos to compensate, $ and big cars are props that dont cut it for women who are real women. So Tarzan go find dumb Jane for a night and you will catch something contagious

 

Be careful what you wish for. If you want chicks become a bouncer @ a sleazy strip place. If you want $, go for investment banking not medicine.

 

Edit: The other day, at a red light, I came alongside a geek driving a long sports car, top down - there he was picking his nose, the only thing he can pick up is a koozie, how disgusting.

 

or just wrap it up and you'll be fine... lol.

 

Business type jobs are a lottt harder than medicine to become rich from unless you're as lucky as pro athletes are... better enjoy working 14-15 hour days for 20 years before you reach the real big money.

[medigeek]

the definition of fun is diff for everyone...

 

when it comes to cars, bmw all the way

 

and how is money bad? You are earning it in the "good" way when you're a doc

 

Some people like to say that being driven by money is not good. I always go lolwut. Some people just cant accept that someone justtt might love a hugee pay check and really like their career at the same time.

 

To each their own. For me - zero. I knew when I went back to school to attempt to get into medicine that I would never recoup the money I am losing. I could be wrong, but I suspect that if are putting your chips on medicine being the route to lots of chicks and a lambo you are going to be disappointed.

 

Yes, I am sure that a higher percentage of male MDs end up with a super hot chick and a lambo than the general population. But most of them have the intelligence and drive that would have made them "successful" if they had chosen a different path.

 

I know several MDs who think that becoming a doctor was not the right choice for them and that they would have actually enjoyed doing something else. Most continue because they have invested too much of their life in training and are finally making money. That is just my way of saying that I think "interest in the field" should be higher than 50%. You will likely spend much more time in the field than with the lambo.

 

My percentage breakdown wasnt really meant that way lol.

 

And how many of those shallow types with the prestigious (rollseyes) MD and high paying career end up in divorce? I know lots of them...

 

50% of marriages end in divorce...

[medigeek]

The above bold post has merit. You are correct too about women.

 

If an doctor goes for the hot chick here is a real life scenario of a doc I know in the US, a plastic surgeon making mega bucks in Florida. So he marries this chick and builds a 2nd home in another state, sending his wife to look after this project. Meanwhile the pool boy looks after the wife and he now lives with her in this home that she got as part of a multimilion dollar divorce settlement. She shared her favours and is now sharing her ex's money!

 

Go for a hot chick who is after $$ and your per pop payments will be far more than an expense escort agency with gorgeous hot chicks you can rent for the night. Oh, I forgot, men dont want to pay for it, so they buy an expensive car, have a downtown condo and impress the woman with what he has, a far, far more costly exercise than an escort. Go for a woman with beauty and brains, who doesn't need your things, who will only be interested in you, you are lucky if you capture her heart. Buying a woman is strictly temporary with a very limited shelf life. And she will tell the world all your secrets you shared with her. Hardly worth it.

 

 

This is when you know that being book smart =/= real life smart at all (not one bit).

 

Why would anyone ever get serious with a girl they impressed with money? I realized this when I was 15, but clearly some people of such high calibre do not. In fact, once you have a lot of money it's A LOTTT harder to find "wife material" women vs. when you're someone average. Hence one reason for more divorces:

 

- women realizes doctor will make a lot of $$$

- marries for few years

- stops working

- divorces and takes half of money

- doctor was a dumba$$ for believing the woman's fake personality

 

 

Having a lot of money will attract lots of very attractive women who are good for hook ups, and maybe very short term casual dating. In other words you get rid of them fast (and very fast).

 

I dont know about escort agencies since I don't like chicks who've slept with hundreds of dudes.

[goleafsgochris]

Didnt the "med student" status help you at all? And being a resident = doctor anyway... you dont really need a big wallet, jus have to pretend you have one

 

Sort of an interesting point, that you might want to think about before med school, esp if this is important to you.

 

Did med school sometimes help with getting girls? Of course. When you are out and meet new people, you seem to have direction and to be intelligent, and this can definitely score points in your favor if you are not boastful about it. (Of course all girls deny that this is a factor and deny "caring," but my luck with girls in this situation definitely increased).

 

The point I want you to understand is that this is not as often a benefit as you might think. Its not like in medical school you are meeting random chicks impressed by future money all the time--no, most girls you meet are either med students themselves (who dont care about another med student lol), or others in the health care field (mainly girls older than you...which obv isnt really what you want). Or, if you are going out AROUND the med school (which is often where you go out of course)...people are sort of used to med students/health care workers in this area.

 

Im just saying its not as bog a difference as youd think. You are also sort of busy in med school to be out constantly trying to pick up randoms. Honestly, the "womanizing med student"--I very rarely saw guys like this in practice. I hope this makes sense lol, I just dont want you to get into med school thinking its going to be like a different beautiful woman every week gawking at your status--real life doesnt really work like that.

 

 

And to the ppl saying "I never cared about the $$/women!", this is kind of silly. (Almost) everyone does at first. Your interest develops once you start med school (atleast mine did). How do you know you want to be a doctor really before you start? I know I didnt, and Im still happy with my choice here in residency. You guys take the "eyeroll" emoticon to a new level sometimes.

[aaronjw]

or just wrap it up and you'll be fine... lol.

 

Business type jobs are a lottt harder than medicine to become rich from unless you're as lucky as pro athletes are... better enjoy working 14-15 hour days for 20 years before you reach the real big money.

 

What's your definition of Rich? Because, banking a net $200K/yr for 25'ish years isn't exactly rich by the standards of those who actually are rich.

 

I've made a significant amount of money in the past 7-10 years in my previous career. I have no mortgage's yet own a house and a condo and I have significant investments including a large portion in Google stocks that was bought at their IPO price.

 

My point? I am most definitely not rich. I am quite comfortable yes but NOT rich by any stretch of the imagination and frankly there's a reason why I am giving up my very comfortable living to return to school to pursue something that has more meaning to me and it's NOT due to the money (factor in the lost wages over the next 10 years while in school+residency and I'm likely not coming out ahead).

 

And, I did not work 14-15 hour days in the business world.

 

Medicine will provide you with a financially stable career well above what the national average is but you will NOT be *rich* by practising medicine.

[aaronjw]

 

Didnt the "med student" status help you at all? And being a resident = doctor anyway... you dont really need a big wallet, jus have to pretend you have one

 

Just how fugly must you be if you need a "med student" or "Dr" status to pick up girls?

[goleafsgochris]

^^^ lol I dont think (hopefully) he means flaunting that you are a dr to meet/pick up girls. I think he is more saying you are conversing with a girl, talking about x/y/z, when she asks what you do you tell her, she is impressed. I would hope hes not really really suggesting you go to hooters and tell the waitresses "id like a bud light and some wings, and btw Im also a doctor" or something like that haha

[medigeek]

What's your definition of Rich? Because, banking a net $200K/yr for 25'ish years isn't exactly rich by the standards of those who actually are rich.

 

I've made a significant amount of money in the past 7-10 years in my previous career. I have no mortgage's yet own a house and a condo and I have significant investments including a large portion in Google stocks that was bought at their IPO price.

 

My point? I am most definitely not rich. I am quite comfortable yes but NOT rich by any stretch of the imagination and frankly there's a reason why I am giving up my very comfortable living to return to school to pursue something that has more meaning to me and it's NOT due to the money (factor in the lost wages over the next 10 years while in school+residency and I'm likely not coming out ahead).

 

And, I did not work 14-15 hour days in the business world.

 

Medicine will provide you with a financially stable career well above what the national average is but you will NOT be *rich* by practising medicine.

 

"Rich" is a vague and broad term and I only meant (by using it) that you're going to be doing VERY well compared to the average household income. And you can afford a lambo Of course there isnt one single MD salary for all physicians and certain practices (ex. cosmetics) can gross income over 700-800k (ex. I made a thread about this, some doctor whos an "acne specialist").

 

For the purpose of this thread, it is less about how much money you actually have and more about how you display yourself. (ex. driving a lambo).

[medigeek]

Just how fugly must you be if you need a "med student" or "Dr" status to pick up girls?

 

teach me your tricks on how to pick up 9.5s/10 with a high frequency.

[Lactic Folly]

And being a resident = doctor anyway... you dont really need a big wallet, jus have to pretend you have one

 

Resident salaries are public. They know exactly how much you make.