Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'm hoping it's accepted, but I don't think it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I am highly confused. Apparently only 5/12 of exec committee members supporting offer. How can that be an endorsement for supporting the offer then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Joey Li @pandaloverrr 17m17 minutes ago have a 45% midterm tomorrow and i haven't started studying.... i hope it's a NO vote lol #YorkUStrike lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I am highly confused. Apparently only 5/12 of exec committee members supporting offer. How can that be an endorsement for supporting the offer then? Union is broken. These people selected execs that don't represent their interests. It is a lost cause now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 If they reject this, I suspect we'll see a new exec and bargaining team motion at a soon-to-be-called meeting lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 interesting: "What happens if some Units ratify and others do not? If, for example, Units 1 and 3 reject and Unit 2 ratifies, then Unit 2 will have to go back to work and may have to cross picket lines. However, if classes remain cancelled there will be no work to return to until classes resume. In this case, members of Unit 2 will not be eligible for strike pay and may be not get paid by York." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 interesting: "What happens if some Units ratify and others do not? If, for example, Units 1 and 3 reject and Unit 2 ratifies, then Unit 2 will have to go back to work and may have to cross picket lines. However, if classes remain cancelled there will be no work to return to until classes resume. In this case, members of Unit 2 will not be eligible for strike pay and may be not get paid by York." I don't think this is the case. It would undermine York's offer/strategy. York presented a good offer to unit 2 to try and get an overall victory. If the offer allowed only unit 2 to ratify, it would mean that splitting the union is impossible. Nothing would stop unit 2 from accepting and unit1/3 from continuing to fight for indexation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 More interesting: "Moreover, we will not have an opportunity to debate the offer at a meeting as a membership, as voting tonight begins prior to the start of debate. This is not good decision making practice." If that is true, WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruhh Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think it's gonna be hard to predict what will happen. What we've witnessed so far is a VERY small sample of CUPE members dusgruntled by the deal. I haven't seen a single member endorse the offer on Twitter so we could generalize that the majority will be against the deal. But it could also be that those who are endorsing it are just quite and not causing any public conflicts. I'm sure if all the members started sharing opinions, there would be even more clash between the units. I have no idea, we will probably have a better idea during the meeting if members post updates on social media about the general vibes. My only concern is that I have a 40% midterm this Thursday and if we're back in school I will be royally ***ed if it doesn't get postponed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think it's gonna be hard to predict what will happen. What we've witnessed so far is a VERY small sample of CUPE members dusgruntled by the deal. I haven't seen a single member endorse the offer on Twitter so we could generalize that the majority will be against the deal. But it could also be that those who are endorsing it are just quite and not causing any public conflicts. I'm sure if all the members started sharing opinions, there would be even more clash between the units. I have no idea, we will probably have a better idea during the meeting if members post updates on social media about the general vibes. My only concern is that I have a 40% midterm this Thursday and if we're back in school I will be royally ***ed if it doesn't get postponed. All of my profs have said that any test scheduled for this weel will be postponed. wrt legislation, apparently they can be legislated back to work, but then could fight the legislation in court. That would end the strike as it usually takes years for things like that to get done. I don't know if this is true, but i saw it posted on the maingate picketing page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think need to consider a law suit against the surgeon and anesthesiologist who were involved in my appendix removal. Something they did must have caused a neurological disordered. Its the only way I can figure out as to why I have turned pro union on this deal lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think need to consider a law suit against the surgeon and anesthesiologist who were involved in my appendix removal. Something they did must have caused a neurological disordered. Its the only way I can figure out as to why I have turned pro union on this deal lol Just fyi, it looks like you were right about unit 2 being back in work if they vote to rat. but the rest do not. Apparently York is preparing for this: https://www.facebook.com/groups/116381605105596/ Read the thread about police officers removing picketers on shoreham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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totallyawesome Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Hoping for more time off but I have a bad feeling. Time to block the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Updates via **DELETED** http://www.**DELETED**.com/r/yorku/comments/2yhbr8/i_am_at_the_meeting_now_live_updates/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Sounds like we'll be back to school tomorrow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totallyawesome Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Brb crying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 ^^ haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 happy to get back to school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I still can't believe they did not allow any discussion time before voting. You'd almost think Stephen Harper was running this thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I still can't believe they did not allow any discussion time before voting. You'd almost think Stephen Harper was running this thing! They're smart. My problem with unions has always been the internal politics. Personally ambition leads to stuff like this. This BT and set of execs will eventually get credit for avoiding a very long strike, and will gain position in the national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 think the **DELETED** person has been silenced... I am at the Meeting Now. Live Updates by cupeadonis in yorku [–]cupeadonis[S] 8 points 24 minutes ago Some guy just took a look at my laptop and make a funny face.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 It's getting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 There may be some very angry feminism geography phds in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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