Lightform Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Hi, With the CaRMS ROL submission deadline approaching fast, I'm guessing everyone is scrambling to make-up their minds. I'm starting this thread to help people decide between hard choices. My own dilemma: Which would you rank higher and why, Toronto Radiology OR McGill Radiology? Looking forward to hearing about other dilemmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarakj Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 of course TO.. no question... sorry i am biased !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Lol, Toronto, I wouldn't even hesitate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Toronto, and I dislike the city a great deal. I would avoid Quebec at all costs for any residency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargaze Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Depends on where you are from and your future plans, I really liked McGill's rads program [every graduate from that program is very solid and ends up with exceptional fellowship programs]; if I had family/roots there, it would not hesitate to rank it in my top 2-3 b.c you are guaranteed to go to an amazing fellowship (they have great connections with Resnick, Harvard etc etc) Mine is Dal vs. Mac vs Western... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED527 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Why the avoidance of Quebec residency programs? Are there other issues besides the lower pay scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWW Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Tough one... I'm sort of torn between by top 3 as well....this is my question: is it advantageous to rank a program with more positions higher on the list? For instance, program A has 3 spots and program B has 1 spot. In my opinion it's a higher match probability if I ranked program A higher... Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnuts Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 You cannot influence your chance of matching by changing your rank order. You will match at your highest ranked program that has space for you based on THE PROGRAM's rank order. The only thing that should go into your rank list decisions are your actual preferences. There is no way to strategically rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xi88 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Tough one... I'm sort of torn between by top 3 as well....this is my question: is it advantageous to rank a program with more positions higher on the list? For instance, program A has 3 spots and program B has 1 spot. In my opinion it's a higher match probability if I ranked program A higher... Thoughts? That is an incorrect understanding of how the match works. Rank the programs in the order that you prefer. That is the only thing you should be considering. Thinking about anything else will only get you ranked at a less desireable program. In other words, if you like B better than A, then rank B first regardless how many spots either of them has. The following is how the match algorithm works. The computer randomly selects an applicant. It looks at their top ranked program, lets call it "A". The computer then looks up A's rank list. If that applicant is anywhere on A's list (regardless of how many actual positions A has), that applicant is 'tentatively matched' to A. If A does not rank this applicant, the computer does the same with the applicant's second ranked program. This continues until the applicant is 'tentatively matched' or the list is exhausted. The computer then moves on to the next applicant and does the exact same thing. After all applicants have been 'tentatively matched' (or exhausted their lists), the computer looks at how many seats each program. Lets say A has 3 seats, but ranked 15 people. Therefore 15 people could have 'tentatively matched to A. The top three ranked by A are now 'Perminately matched' and drop out of the algorithm. The rest of the 12 are now 'unmatched' and released back into the algorithm. The entire cycle repeats again (now with significantly less applicants and less available programs). These cycles continue until either all applicants are 'perminately matched' or have exhausted their lists. The above algorithm was created by Lloyd Shapley and modified by Alvin Roth, both of whom won the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2012 for inventing this algorithm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightform Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Mine is Dal vs. Mac vs Western... I'd say: Western > Mac > Dal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargaze Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 haha...why did you say that order Lightform? I went backwards to your order list; how did you resolve your dilemma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightform Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I put Toronto before McGill Btw I thought Western had probably more contacts to other programs in Ontario than say Dal... and after residency is done it's all about connections to get a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargaze Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 That is great! you can't go wrong with Toronto as your number 1 choice! and I agree with you. Although it is too late to make changes now :s I put Toronto before McGill Btw I thought Western had probably more contacts to other programs in Ontario than say Dal... and after residency is done it's all about connections to get a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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