Guest DrSahsi Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 Thought I'd throw this one onto the boards as a distraction for those of you trapped in [back to school]/[orientation week]/[oh gawd I'm still a resident] mode... :x 12 Year Old Begins Medical School Youngest student ever at University of Chicago professional school. ARTICLE: www.msnbc.com/news/956670.asp Thoughts? - Rupinder P.S. - Yes, I saw the link while reading www.fark.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BBB Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 Wow, IQ over 200. Amazing. It will be of great help to medical/research fields to have a few clones (if legal and scientifically possible ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UWOMED2005 Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 200 IQ does not a great doctor make. Though I'm sure it wouldn't hurt. 12? This guy literally is Doogie Howser. . . he'll be 16 when he graduates to an internship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hilde Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 good luck to him. An Einstein IQ doesn't really make one fit to be a doctor although it helps in acing the MCAT and getting a high GPA, but I really don't think he's had enough life experiences. It feels like he rushed through the years in his young life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EMHC Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 How would he be doing his rotations when he's 14? Would it be appropriate for a minor (he is legally termed a minor until he turns the age of majority in his jurisdiction, namely Illinois) to be exposed to certain situations when training? How would a patient react when the person who is treating them is a minor? But it does say in the article that he's going to do an MD/PhD and he'll probably graudate when he's 19 or 20. Does this mean that he'll get his MD and Ph.D. at the same time or will he get his MD first and then after his thesis receive his PHD. I'm not sure about the MD/PHD program and would be delighted if anyone here can enlighten me about this. EMHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strider2004 Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 he'll be doing an MD/PhD. So..he won't be doing rotations till he's 17 or 18. Usually you do 2 years pre-clinical, then research, then back to clinical rotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kirsteen Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Hi there, In the article it states that he'll be doing his MD/PhD concurrently, i.e., as part of an MD/PhD program. His overall schedule for completing the degrees will differ a little from his classmates though, as his two clinical years will be at the end of the completion of the didactic portion of the MD and the completion of his PhD. So he'll be ~18 when he officially hits the wards. Good luck to the young guy! He sounds like quite the person. Cheers, Kirsteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest everyoneloveschem Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Sure, its nice and all, BUT... Would you want a 16,17,18,19 year old doing your pap, operating on your child, talking to depressed schizophrenics? I would definitely be wary of such a young person being my specialist/GP. Maybe he knows this, and has decided to take the MD/PHd route on purpose, so he ends up doing research, where there won't be the same conflicts due to his age (that in itself would show maturity). It sucks because he has the brain/drive to pursue knowledge and move forward academically, but what about normal childhood fun? It's kind of hard to enjoy your first kiss, when your brain is full of clinical info about STDs, human endocrine system/hormones, etc. Sure I would like to get into med school, but I'd rather do it as an adult with a full childhood behind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UWOMED2005 Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 The fact he's not starting clerkship until 17-18 would alleviate some of the fears of myself and a classmate. If he were doing just the MD, he'd be starting clerkship at 14 - sorry of this sounds crude, but his first view/feel of a female breast might be in a clinical exam (either auscultation or breast exam.) That could be quite confusing. 18 though, that might be reasonable. I think there are a few people who post on this board who will only be a few years older than that when they start clerkship. As it stands, he'll probably be in the anatomy lab at 12-13. . . that too could be confusing for someone just going through puberty. Once again, sorry to be crude, but some of the pelvic region prosections might not be exactly suitable for the preteen crowd. And then there is the whole question of his normal adolescent development. First off, he will be going through adolescence with little contact with other adolescents. Worse, he's going to stick out like a sore thumb. We had a kid at my high school who skipped 2-3 grades to get into grade 9, and then was taking OAC calculus in grade 9 so he was taking OAC calculus at 12-13. While many people at my high school saw him with a great deal of respect, he did stick out like a sore thumb and I'm not sure how he got along with his peers in grade 9. And he was taking OAC calculus, not MEDICINE, at 12-13. On the flipside, another guy at my High School was doing a concurrent Ontario Secondary School Diploma and (unbeknownst me) a Honours University Degree in Mathematics. It was actually quite funny - I knew him reasonably well and knew him to be a genius, having finished in the top 10 on the Descartes from grade 9 on (with the exception of one year when he forgot to fill in a code for first name ) but he never seemed to do all that well in the classes we shared. As it turns out, it was because he devoted all his efforts to his university degree. . . which he earned the highest marks at his university, the equivalent of a 4.0 GPA, and then received the ?commonwealth? to do grad work at cambridge. My point is, this guy was reasonably well adjusted despite his genius. Everything depends on the person involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kirsteen Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Hi there, I'm sure the U. Chicago-Pritzker Admissions Committee had many (or more) similar concerns about this young guy entering medical school. Let's hope they explored those fully in the interviews and didn't view this in any way as a neat means to gain publicity. Cheers, Kirsteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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