bbqsauce Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Does anyone know if getting a diploma in practical dermatology (specifically through Cardiff University - online) as a GP is helpful? What can you do once you have this diploma? Are you able to actually see dermatology consults, or is it more of a program to enhance your own skills. A brochure for this diploma program came with the new CMAJ magazine, just curious if there's any value to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amichel Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Does anyone know if getting a diploma in practical dermatology (specifically through Cardiff University - online) as a GP is helpful? What can you do once you have this diploma? Are you able to actually see dermatology consults, or is it more of a program to enhance your own skills. A brochure for this diploma program came with the new CMAJ magazine, just curious if there's any value to this I saw that too. The tuition was beyond absurd and the hours involved didn't seem practical. Sorry, I have no idea if it's useful though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mononoke Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I'm wondering why these programs aren't offered as a +1 with family med, they seem quite popular and I don't know how good the training is coming from an online course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shikimate Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 In the part of country where my university is located, there is a significant shortage for dermatologist (only 2-3 in the community, NONE in academic setting) and wait times are significant even for urgent referrals from our academic hospital (eg. bullous disease). There are almost no derm service for surrounding rural areas. If ER sees someone that may need referral to derm it's very hard to tell someone in Feb they have to wait until Nov to see a dermatologist. There is a group of GP + derm in the area, and sees patients faster and can manage common conditions. I've heard that if those GP(derm) refer to dermatologist the patient generally get seen faster because they are already triaged and worked up appropriately. That GP group also does minor procedures. The ER seem to have good working relationship with the GP group. Overall I think there's significant demand for GP + Derm in areas, especially less urban areas. I don't think you'll be short of work at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p2310 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 There are a few options that I have heard of. 1.) Cardiff-this is the most common. I am not certain how useful the program is. 2.) There is an international derm program through Boston. It is expensive but I have heard that they train you as they would a resident in Dermatology. http://www.bumc.bu.edu/derm/training-programs-overview/international-graduate-training-program/ 3.) Craft your own plus one. If you can find a dermatologist that will take you on for a year you might be able to do your own plus one in dermatology. I know of a number of GP-derm clinics in Ottawa and Toronto that take referrals only. If they refer it's usually to an academic department that can handle the more complicated derm cases..similar to a community dermatologist. I am not certain what the difference in the fee schedule is...Dermatologists have the lowest fee schedule of any specialty and they make it up on volume/cosmetics. If a GP derm has a fee schedule even lower then that makes it more difficult. Patient's won't know the difference between GP derm and FRCP derm and in practicality there isn't a lot of difference. Common things being common a GP can handle most if not all the cases that a General Dermatologist would see. The difference is academic dermatology which is another animal altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbqsauce Posted April 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 thanks guys. I guess I'm not really sure if it's worth it to fork over the huge amount of money on tuition, if you're not going to get appropriately reimbursed as a "specialist" for seeing derm patients, when you're done. but I guess it might be useful for added knowledge as a GP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mononoke Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 thanks guys. I guess I'm not really sure if it's worth it to fork over the huge amount of money on tuition, if you're not going to get appropriately reimbursed as a "specialist" for seeing derm patients, when you're done. but I guess it might be useful for added knowledge as a GP... Unless you can do cosmetics with that diploma, then maybe you'll be appropriately reimbursed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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