trymeover Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 From the information I've compiled, it seems there's a stigma to second-time applicants at American school. Furthermore, I don't think I have yet seen a successful second time Canadian applicant to an American Medical School. Has anybody in this forum been rejected at an American school, and then gotten accepted the following year? I want to actually see a person who's done this, rather than hearing 'I heard..so and so' stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmitch8 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I got accepted by a school that was aware I was a second-time applicant. They knew I applied to Canadian schools last year, didn't get in and was now trying American schools. This was SUNY Upstate. I think there is a stigma but, in my experience, it didn't seem to play that great of a role. Maybe it's worse at specific schools that have already rejected you once before and you are now re-applying to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
token Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 OP is referring to second time applicants at American schools. I.e. people who have submitted AMCAS more than once... personally I don't know anyone who's done it successfully. Just make sure you put your best foot forward the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest viscous Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 OP is referring to second time applicants at American schools. I.e. people who have submitted AMCAS more than once... personally I don't know anyone who's done it successfully. Just make sure you put your best foot forward the first time. This is a depressing update for people like me. Are you talking about pre-interview rejection or post-interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickybox Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I think the problem with re-applying to the same US schools (either pre or post interview rejection) is that the schools EXPECT you to have significantly improved your application. ie. new grades, new MCAT score, significant EC's. If you re-apply with essentially the same application, again either pre or post interview rejection, it's definitely an uphill battle. However, I'm not entirely sure on re-applying but to schools you didn't add the first time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickybox Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 As to your original question trymeover, I personally know someone who applied to Wayne State twice, but they improved their MCAT performance by 4 points (from 31 to 35), was accepted, but attended a Canadian school in the end. I believe he also had 3 more US interviews where he was rejected from the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymeover Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 OP is referring to second time applicants at American schools. I.e. people who have submitted AMCAS more than once... personally I don't know anyone who's done it successfully. Just make sure you put your best foot forward the first time. Yeah, I meant second time AMCAS applicants. I say this because I heard a few american medschool applicants say that once a school rejects you, you're basically rejected from there forever. As to your original question trymeover, I personally know someone who applied to Wayne State twice, but they improved their MCAT performance by 4 points (from 31 to 35), was accepted, but attended a Canadian school in the end. I believe he also had 3 more US interviews where he was rejected from the year before. Wow!... That's pretty ridiculous. But was there a significant gap between his first and second applications? And did he also improve stuff other than his MCAT? I'm guessing this person applied in the summer before 4th year, got rejected, and then applied after a masters with more research and a better MCAT score--two things the USmeds love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickybox Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I really don't know what he did to strengthen his application, I only know of his mcat jump. He applied the first time in the beginning of 4th year, and then re-applied in his victory lap year. Don't forget that many of the lower and mid-tier schools aren't as big on research, so to re-apply to those schools without significant research wouldn't be as detrimental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
token Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Yeah, I meant second time AMCAS applicants. I say this because I heard a few american medschool applicants say that once a school rejects you, you're basically rejected from there forever. From what I've heard, it's still going to be an issue at schools you didn't apply to the first time. First off you're going to have to explain why you didn't apply there the first time...was it because you didn't apply broadly enough? That makes you seem immature. And even if they don't care about that, they're still going to wonder what caused you to be rejected the first time round at all those other schools, and if you've taken any steps to rectify those issues. Another issue is the cycle really doesn't end until the summer before matriculation. So unless you realize before the new year that this cycle isn't going to work out, you might not have time to improve your app before June of the next cycle. You should definitely take a look at the re-applicant forum on SDN....there's lots of successful re-apps there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foregoneconclusion Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I have so far had a very quick rejection to the schools I applied to last year but have an interview at a school I didn't apply to last year. Quite weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariostudent Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 From what I've heard, it's still going to be an issue at schools you didn't apply to the first time. First off you're going to have to explain why you didn't apply there the first time...was it because you didn't apply broadly enough? That makes you seem immature. And even if they don't care about that, they're still going to wonder what caused you to be rejected the first time round at all those other schools, and if you've taken any steps to rectify those issues. I've heard that as well. Unfortunately it looks like reapplying to the same school is bad and applying to new schools is bad too, unless you have significantly improved. Quite different from Canada, where the spots are so limited that excellent candidates are expected to fall through the cracks and reapply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayne67 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I was a second time applicant that was successful. I first applied two years ago with average stats (3.70 GPA, 30 MCAT) and managed to get 5 interviews (Darthmouth, Boston U, Vermont, GW, and Meharry). Needless to say, I ended up getting waitlisted by every school. It royally sucked when none of the schools accepted me at the end of that cycle. Last year, I rewrote the MCAT very late (mid-September) and managed to improve my MCAT to 33R and my GPA didn't change. I sent in my secondaries very late (i.e. mid to late October). I got three interviews (Wayne State, EVMS, and GW). I was accepted to Wayne State and EVMS, while GW waitlisted me once again. I don't know if my being a second time applicant affected my chances. Only one of the schools that interviewed me the previous year (GW) bothered to interview me again. But my applying really late could have easily played a factor in that. And I did apply to both EVMS and Wayne State the previous year as well and they both accepted me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnatWayne Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I think the point is that the second time around the schools are looking for considerable improvement in your application (i.e. 30-->33 MCAT improvement). Dayne, shouldn't you be studying the crimasteric reflex? You know it's going to be on the test! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a41 Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I think the point is that the second time around the schools are looking for considerable improvement in your application (i.e. 30-->33 MCAT improvement). Dayne, shouldn't you be studying the crimasteric reflex? You know it's going to be on the test! You actually have to elicit the cremasteric reflex on Dr. Bagchi during the practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnatWayne Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 You actually have to elicit the cremasteric reflex on Dr. Bagchi during the practical. I'm pretty sure it's near impossible to elicit that reflex on Dr. Bagchi - pretty sure he would need some 'supplements'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a41 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I'm pretty sure it's near impossible to elicit that reflex on Dr. Bagchi - pretty sure he would need some 'supplements'. You have to in order to honor though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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