johnnyrocker Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I was wondering if anyone had any information on salary differences between someone who comes from family medicine vs. internal medicine and specializes in sports medicine? Or any insight about the distinction between the different fields as it relates to sports medicine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White-Tiger Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I didn't know you could enter sports med thru IM? I thought it was from family and ortho and maybe EM in Canada. I know the in the states theres family, IM, peds, EM and ortho..? However, I would be interested in hearing some typical salaries for sports med people from FM...and IM if such a thing exists.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 As reiterated many times before on this forum, there really is no such thing as a "salary" in medicine. You bill for your services. The more you work, the more you make. In sports med through family, you would advertise yourself as a sports medicine-family med trained doc. Other family docs could refer to you. Generally, in most provinces you would be able to bill a "GP consult" per patient that you see. In BC, this is about 100 dollars, which would include a complete history, physical, and write-up/dictation of your findings back to the family doc who referred the patient to you. You may be able to get a salaried position in a university family med department but these positions are few and far between. I would imagine the "salary" would be about 150k-180k a year, with tons of benefits of course, something that you wouldn't get in private practice (pension, medical, dental, paid vacation, etc.). If you do sports med through IM, (I don't know that you could but I suppose you could advertise yourself as such if you did do a fellowship), other docs would refer to you and you would bill a specialty consult for IM (which in BC, is I think around 150 bucks for the initial visit and about 50 bucks for subsequent visits--somebody correct me if I'm wrong). The downside is you need docs to refer to you if you are in IM, whereas if you are a FP trained sports med doc you could just advertise your services without need for referrals (you would just bill a visit fee for each patient that you saw, much like how a GP would). It is possible for a FP/sports med doc to make more money than an IM doc. It happens all the time. The advantages of doing FP/sports med would be that you do not need referrals for patients, and you could still do general FM. The advantages of doing IM/sports med if such a thing exists is that you bill more PER PATIENT for doing essentially the same thing, but you would need a referral from a family doc (or other specialist). I cannot answer your question as to who makes more because it really depends on how you look at things. You can bill more per patient in IM/sports med but you may have trouble getting patients in the first place (especially when you first start off). However, as a GP/sports med you can get patients easily but may not be able to bill as much. If you supplement your income with walk-in clinics as a GP/sports med doc you can make even more than most IM docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gryph Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I'm not familiar with IM > Sports in Canada. You can do a Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation residency (5 years) and narrow your focus to sports, possibly after doing a sports fellowship. I'm not completely sure how the scope of practice would be different; PMR might let you do more pain management and injections. Here's a PMR sports doc's website: http://www.sportrehabdoc.com/ (no affiliation to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploughboy Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 http://www.casm-acms.org/Media/Content/files/Candidate%20Eligibility%20Criteria.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemeno Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Hi there ! I'm PGY-1 family medicine at UO and I've interested so much to sport medicine. Do you know: 1. How is competitiveness to have a PGY-3 fellowship in sport medicine ? 2. Are there any difficulties to find patients in this field ? Any comment will be very appreciated ! Thank you ! Kemeno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemeno Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 The real sports med docs - the game changers, big wheels, and authorities on the subject - are all orthopods. If you want sports med, do ortho. It's quite disappointing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalslacker Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 There's a definite role for FM +1 sports docs. Ideally they would work in a multi-disciplinary clinic with an orthopod, as well as physio, chiro, massage etc. I don't know how hard it is to get these spots, but most family physicians don't have a great MSK knowledge base. In a more efficient world MSK injuries would bypass the family MD and go straight to a FM sports doc who has the knowledge to parse out the operative from non-operative more efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemeno Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 There's a definite role for FM +1 sports docs. Ideally they would work in a multi-disciplinary clinic with an orthopod, as well as physio, chiro, massage etc. I don't know how hard it is to get these spots, but most family physicians don't have a great MSK knowledge base. In a more efficient world MSK injuries would bypass the family MD and go straight to a FM sports doc who has the knowledge to parse out the operative from non-operative more efficiently. I think that you are absolutely right because many MSK problem aren't surgical at all ! Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tua022012 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Thanks for the insight. I look forward to reading more from all of you. Let me introduce you some useful materials: Ernst & Young interview questions Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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