igotacookie Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 heart attack in pill form... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oto Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Wow, interesting thread. It seems like all the med students used to sleep on average only 4-6 hours per 24hrs in undergrad. I find this hard to believe. I thought med students would've been masters of time management. Dr. Strangelove got 7 hours though, which is perfect, so not all medstudents were like that. I wanna hear more numbers from med students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starling Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I probably get 6-6.5h/night during the week and then a good 9h/night on weekends. I think I slept about the same amount in undergrad, maybe slightly more due to fewer early classes. If I cut out too much sleep, I just doze off in lecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itimebomb2 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Put your own health first even if it means going to a Caribbean medical school instead of a Canadian one. How can we tell our patients to put their health first if we don't. If that were true, we'd have a bunch of hippy idiots as doctors in Canada. Some of the best doctors (i.e. the ones who will save your life) are the ones who harm themselves the most (either physically through lack of self-care or indirectly through demolished relationships and family life). Obviously I'm not saying this is a good thing, but just to be clear - being a wicked doctor has nothing to do with how well you take care of yourself. In fact, if anything, taking poorer care of yourself might actually make you a better doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itimebomb2 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I've always been a good sleeper myself. I probably average 8 hours a night overall (prob 6-7 on weekdays, and 9-10 on weekends). That said, I'd consider myself an impeccable time manager, and also one who doesn't operate well without sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinch Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 If that were true, we'd have a bunch of hippy idiots as doctors in Canada. Some of the best doctors (i.e. the ones who will save your life) are the ones who harm themselves the most (either physically through lack of self-care or indirectly through demolished relationships and family life). Obviously I'm not saying this is a good thing, but just to be clear - being a wicked doctor has nothing to do with how well you take care of yourself. In fact, if anything, taking poorer care of yourself might actually make you a better doctor. Could not agree more. It's counterintuitive to the way we are raised, but I feel it is completely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oto Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I've always been a good sleeper myself. I probably average 8 hours a night overall (prob 6-7 on weekdays, and 9-10 on weekends). That said, I'd consider myself an impeccable time manager, and also one who doesn't operate well without sleep. How the hell can you manage time that well? P.S. The quote in your signature is so awesome, I came across it a few years ago, it made me think for a while. Could not agree more. It's counterintuitive to the way we are raised, but I feel it is completely true. sfinch, how much did you sleep during undergrad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xIcewind Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 I'm with itimebomb2. I sleep 7-8 hrs / night (both weeknight and weekend) My time management is incredibly terrible, but I find I just don't function well without at least that much sleep. I just work everything around that. I also needed that much sleep in undergrad as well. I've also never pulled an all-nighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oto Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Boy, the shhit you have to do to promote boarding schools these days eh moris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfette Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 I don't buy it. During undergrad, I slept 8-10 hours per night. Maybe less on weekends if I was going out a lot. During preclerkship, I slept 7-8 hours consistently. Even during clerkship, I've been sleeping 7-8 hours except when I'm on-call. Even during my brutal general surgery rotation when I had hours like 5:30am to 6pm. I slept at 8:00 every night and woke up at 4:30 to get ready and to read some notes before work. I had no life for a few weeks, but you do what you have to do. Plus, you're way more efficient when you're not sleep deprived. No matter what people tell you, you have time to sleep, eat, and pee. You just have to make it a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeway Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 This is so odd! I'm in 4th year undergrad and I have always gotten 8-10 (more on weekends) hours of sleep every night. I go to bed around 2-3 am and wake up at noonish for class. When I have 10 am classes (once a week) I go to bed at the same time and just get around 6 hours. Same if I have a test the next day - I'll stay up late or wake up early to study, with 5-6ish hours of sleep. Basically, I get tons of sleep with a few nights of exhaustion (never more than one in a row!) before a test/early class. I had no idea that people actually lived with 4-5 hours every night. How awful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I'm a resident. I've never had a coffee. When I'm not on call, I get 8-9h of sleep a night - the same was true through undergrad and medical school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I'm a resident. I've never had a coffee. When I'm not on call, I get 8-9h of sleep a night - the same was true through undergrad and medical school. What do you do to stay awake when you'r on call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmia Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 In undergrad, I rarely had late nights. I probably averaged around 7-8 hrs per night which is more than enough for me to feel rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanekruger Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Doctor's mostly recommend must 8 hours sleep and i recommend as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech10 Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 What do you do to stay awake when you'r on call? Nothing. Being busy keeps you awake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tron Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 8-9 in undergrad 8-9 now Hopeful I can maintain that. Also, in undergrad I had 30-40 hrs of class per week, whereas now I'm down to 22 or so. I don't drink coffee, but do drink tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RN2MD Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 The older I get the more I've realized that I absolutely need a good night's sleep. In my first undergrad I was averaging about 4-5 hrs/night with some naps during the day. Now, in my second undergrad, I need at least 8hrs of sleep a night. If I have exams or papers due the next day, I'll get 6-7hrs. I've just become better at managing my time. I'm far busier now going to school full-time & working almost full-time, but I just find ways to get my Sleep is too beautiful & precious to give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I have serious troubles with sleeping for whatever reason. I usually can't fall asleep until 2 or 3am, then up at 7:30am for school. Then tired all day struggling to stay awake, and tired until about the early evening when I suddenly wake up. I never nap either, so I don't know why this happens. My circadian rhythm is really screwed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamone Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I have serious troubles with sleeping for whatever reason. I usually can't fall asleep until 2 or 3am, then up at 7:30am for school. Then tired all day struggling to stay awake, and tired until about the early evening when I suddenly wake up. I never nap either, so I don't know why this happens. My circadian rhythm is really screwed up. I know how you feel; I'm the same way. So much lost time just trying to get to sleep... If you ever find a solution to your problem, let me know, and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colossus Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Well thanks a lot guys. It's been almost a month since I posted this question and I've taken a lot people's advice so far and tested it too. I realized that when I slept for exactly 7 hours and worked out for about an hour early in the morning, I barely got tired during the day and would start to loose gas around 10-11pm at night. On the other hand, if I averaged about 5-6 hours of sleep for about 2-3 days straight, without any workouts in the morning, my tank would wear out by the time it's 2-3pm in the afternoon and I would daze off in lectures. Since I don't drink coffee it's obviously very tough. Well truth be told I finally realized that it's not only sleep but procrastination as well that's been causing my issues. A lot of distractions like the internet, television, family events etc....even my mom bothers me a lot sometimes telling me to take her shopping and various places........and then I barely get time for my own work. So normally ended up with sleep deprivation throughout the month. Anyways, I've learned to say 'NO' (which was quite difficult for my mom lol) and made work my 1st priority so that I wouldn't have to risk my well-being. This obviously does not mean I shouldn't take her (you guys have no idea how many times in a week she asks me) but I won't stop. Thanks a lot for your time under grads, med students and residents =)[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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