MedPen Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Did anyone see the admission's officer tweet today? I quote: "Due to extremely high level of competition among OOP applicants, candidates with a GPA below 3.9 will not be invited for an interview". I am IP but this extremely high cutoff is worrisome. By my logic, IP cutoffs should also really increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGGSaint Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Did anyone see the admission's officer tweet today?I quote: "Due to extremely high level of competition among OOP applicants, candidates with a GPA below 3.9 will not be invited for an interview". I am IP but this extremely high cutoff is worrisome. By my logic, IP cutoffs should also really increase Not surprising. McGill has historically been skewed to extremely high GPA applicants. Even more so this year since they have gotten rid of the MCAT requirement for OOP. Don't think it will be anywhere close to this bad for IPs -> you guys have more than a hundred more spots available than OOPs. It's funny that one's odds are better as an international than OOP (less applicants in int'l pool). Too bad I can't use my other passport to apply as an international, would have had myself an interview based on the stats from last year for int'l . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonekid Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Not surprising. McGill has historically been skewed to extremely high GPA applicants. Even more so this year since they have gotten rid of the MCAT requirement for OOP.Agreed. Plus, other schools have fairly high OOP cutoffs (Ottawa, Sask) so it's not too unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPen Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Agreed. Plus, other schools have fairly high OOP cutoffs (Ottawa, Sask) so it's not too unexpected. I think 3.9 is a *really* high cutoff. Way more than I was expecting it to be... What do you guys think IP cutoff will be? 3.7? 3.75? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Did anyone see the admission's officer tweet today?I quote: "Due to extremely high level of competition among OOP applicants, candidates with a GPA below 3.9 will not be invited for an interview". I am IP but this extremely high cutoff is worrisome. By my logic, IP cutoffs should also really increase what you think the case will be if you submitted with extenuating circumstances with a gpa just below 3.9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPen Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 what you think the case will be if you submitted with extenuating circumstances with a gpa just below 3.9? Good question. I honestly don't know. My personal opinion is that they would consider your extenuating circumstances and perhaps evaluate you differently than the other candidates but I don't have any cold hard facts to back this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masaraksh Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 omg lmao, this OOP application thing is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPen Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 omg lmao, this OOP application thing is hilarious. Not sure "hilarious" is the right word. More like really brutal on those applying OOP. Good luck to those who meet the cutoff and sorry for those who found out they don't meet the cutoff or that there is even a cutoff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masaraksh Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Not sure "hilarious" is the right word. More like really brutal on those applying OOP. Good luck to those who meet the cutoff and sorry for those who found out they don't meet the cutoff or that there is even a cutoff! It is brutal, I agree. What I find "hilarious" is how McGill seems to deliver the news in such a direct, dream-crushing manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer08 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Agreed. Plus, other schools have fairly high OOP cutoffs (Ottawa, Sask) so it's not too unexpected. Ottawa has an OOC (out of city) cutoff lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPen Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 It is brutal, I agree. What I find "hilarious" is how McGill seems to deliver the news in such a direct, dream-crushing manner. It is better to know than to anxiously wait around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juicy.Fruit Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Do they include summer courses in GPA?? (if the course is not a science pre-requisite)... it determines whether i make the cut or not... I tried searching this forum but no clear answer; I see both yes and no... and nothing on the website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPen Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Do they include summer courses in GPA?? (if the course is not a science pre-requisite)... it determines whether i make the cut or not... I tried searching this forum but no clear answer; I see both yes and no... and nothing on the website... I think they do. I think they look at your entire GPA as is, without making any modifications/adjustments to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masaraksh Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I'd assume that they would consider all your courses - therefore including summer courses too. but they say assumption is the mother of all ****ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 what you think the case will be if you submitted with extenuating circumstances with a gpa just below 3.9? champ, without going into any detail here, your case is very special and extraordinary, and you should email/phone Dansereau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Too bad I can't use my other passport to apply as an international, would have had myself an interview based on the stats from last year for int'l . And have paid very considerable/unadffordable tuition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsaget Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 does anyone know if this GPA cut-off is according to a McGill conversion (such that >85 percent = 4.0) or a standard OMSAS conversion for Ontario educated individuals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I am IP but this extremely high cutoff is worrisome. By my logic, IP cutoffs should also really increase For IPs, it may become a function of numbers, that is to say, when t hey are swamped with the applications in mid January, if there are so many more of them and they don't want to be bothered looking for the gems amongst the lower GPAs, all they have to do is to raise the bar, and automatically, their workload is significantly reduced. So using your logic and mine, they won't do anything about IPs re cutoofs just now, but will assess the situation late next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsaget Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 ALSO, would a 3.99 GPA (plus three decent CV highlights/abstract) guarantee interview seeing as a 3.90 pseudo-cut-off has been established? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPen Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 So using your logic and mine, they won't do anything about IPs re cutoofs just now, but will assess the situation late next month. So do you think (like I do) that a tweet in late january will inform us of an IP cutoff that will be high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedPen Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 ALSO, would a 3.99 GPA (plus three decent CV highlights/abstract) guarantee interview seeing as a 3.90 pseudo-cut-off has been established? One thing that the admissions process has taught me: there are no guarantees. But, 3.99 is a stellar GPA and you should be in the running for an interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 So do you think (like I do) that a tweet in late january will inform us of an IP cutoff that will be high? If they decide to raise the bar, yes, but not to anything near 3.9. With no MCAT IP, there should be tons of francophones applying and I think it would be political suicide to raise the bar IP and cut out a significant number of IP francophone applicants b/c they don't meet the new cutoffs. McGill may choose to be more holistic in their approach this year for IPs. For OOPs, they don't care, there are no pressures brought to bear from important stakeholders, e.g., Quebec governent, so McGill is free to do as they wish for whatever reason. They just might find many more OOPs becoming IPs in the future! As another poster said, there are no guarantees. And things are changing. All premeds live with uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masaraksh Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 ALSO, would a 3.99 GPA (plus three decent CV highlights/abstract) guarantee interview seeing as a 3.90 pseudo-cut-off has been established? dude, you'll prolly get the interview. don't stress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masaraksh Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 You'll probably be fine. There is no way their cut off is gonna be that high for IP, right? About your friend though, do you think they completely ignore all apps with lower than 3.9 or at least scan through them? I hope they don't just sort by GPA in excel or something and auto-decline everyone below 3.9. OOP is just a lottery, and I bought my $85 ticket on Nov. 15th ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rext Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Well there goes all hope of ever going to McGill...3.9? Seriously? And as a hard cut-off? So if someone got that 3.0 in first year calculus they would subsequently have NO CHANCE at getting into McGill unless they absoultely 4.0 everything else? *sigh* 'tis life eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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