hydrogen4 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/law-cracks-down-on-digital-piracy-in-canada/article2184521/singlepage/#articlecontent I guess this is why you shouldn't elect a MAJORITY Conservative gov't. Serious sucking up to the US.. P.S. I'm not questioning the ethics of stealing. So please don't argue about whether it's ethical/non-ethical to download... relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourning Cloak Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Seems & balanced fair to me. Stealing. Just don't it. It's an embarrassment to have any important legislation so pitifully out of date it no longer reflects anything resembling the current state of events. About time they updated it. Good for them for getting it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 You don't need this to tell me Conservative Majorities suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigars53 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I think it's a good thing they finally updated this, cause from my point of view downloading is stealing. I still do it sometimes, but I am aware of the risks and I try to buy as much cds as I can to encourage my favorite artists. There's only that part about the personnal backup from a protected disk that I don't really like. If I buy a cd and it's protected, does that mean I can't save it on my computer to listen to it on my iPod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchEnemy Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 There's only that part about the personnal backup from a protected disk that I don't really like. If I buy a cd and it's protected, does that mean I can't save it on my computer to listen to it on my iPod? Breaking the digital encryption on a movie DVD – even if copying it for personal use – would make individual Canadians liable for legal damages of up to $5,000 under the bill unveiled by Industry Minister Christian Paradis and Mr. Moore Thursday. Yes I believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Hood Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/law-cracks-down-on-digital-piracy-in-canada/article2184521/singlepage/#articlecontent I guess this is why you shouldn't elect a MAJORITY Conservative gov't. Serious sucking up to the US.. P.S. I'm not questioning the ethics of stealing. So please don't argue about whether it's ethical/non-ethical to download... relax It sucks for the consumer but they are right, downloading pirated movies is like stealing. people work hard and spend millions to create them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdincale Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Even with "piracy" the music industry is still increasing their profits year over year. The argument that they loss money is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Consumers need to recognize that there is a cost to having things in this world. Have I downloaded illegal materials before? Yup, I have. Is it a routine thing with me? No it's not. Do I justify my actions by saying X company is still making millions? No I do not. Wrong is wrong and there's no justification that makes it right. If a person isn't willing to pay for what they use then in my opinion they didn't need it in the first place. Any time I've downloaded pirated software, if I found it something that I used on a regular basis I went and purchased it. Other things, I've not (music, movies etc) so I am no saint in this regard but I try to do it as much as possible. All my music comes from itunes or youtube these days. I have no problem with this update. It likely won't make a difference in the grand scheme of things but I think people and organizations should be paid for what they produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 You don't need this to tell me Conservative Majorities suck. All conservative majorities or just this conservative majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnussey Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 All conservative majorities or just this conservative majority? Lol...the majority of conservative majorities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC_Ma Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 itune just made it so much easier to buy so I buy now instead of going through all the hassle to download a single music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydrogen4 Posted October 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Again as I stated in my initial post, I'm not arguing whether it's right/wrong to steal. It's kind of obvious.. Some unfair things though: 1. Our stupid conservative majority is implementing laws based on sucking up to the US. 2. It's unethical to steal, but it's unethical for the RIAA and MPAA to fine people $10,000 or $30,000 for one count of downloading. How is that not stealing in a way... 3. Before internet piracy came around, the prices to rent/watch movies were exorbitant. Their margin was ridiculous. (it still is even after piracy) There would be no netflix or any of these reasonable alternatives.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It's very sad nowadays that people are looking after singles or single songs. Albums are made to be listened as whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 It's very sad nowadays that people are looking after singles or single songs. Albums are made to be listened as whole. except when whole albums suck which the majority of them do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 How about streaming though? Is watching going to be illegal under the new law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 How about streaming though? Is watching going to be illegal under the new law? Content is licensed for streaming through service providers. Not the types that stream from their TV tho lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgetJones Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/law-cracks-down-on-digital-piracy-in-canada/article2184521/singlepage/#articlecontent I guess this is why you shouldn't elect a MAJORITY Conservative gov't. Serious sucking up to the US.. P.S. I'm not questioning the ethics of stealing. So please don't argue about whether it's ethical/non-ethical to download... relax There are people in this country who do not have enough to eat, people without homes, people who need help and digital piracy is what the gov't cares about? Boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 The copyright law in the USA never stopped people from downloading anyway, so I don't see how it would be different here, especially with encrypted servers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renoir Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 The copyright law in the USA never stopped people from downloading anyway, so I don't see how it would be different here, especially with encrypted servers etc. Yeah, it's a bit like extreme speeders who own a passport detector - those who are pros at it usually get away, while the small fry (like me doing 9km/h over ) get hit. For now, though there's the "reassurance" that they're just going to pursue big-time uploaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 The "cost" of me obtaining songs and movies is the huge bill i pay each month for a huge bandwidth cap and blistering speeds If they make a movie actually worth the effort, i'll go see it in the theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erk Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I haven't bought a DVD or CD I haven't torrented. On the flip side, if I've torrented a DVD or CD and actually listened to it/watched it more than once, chances are pretty good I've gone out and bought it. Governments and recording companies need to wake up and smell the dollars rather than kneejerking so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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