lolelol Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Now speaking of red-line issues, what is this LGBT equality crap? Is there language in any documentation that specifically excludes someone who is LGBT? Is there language that only applies to heterosexuals? I can't tell if you're kidding, do you realize how ape **** people go over LGBT people? The bartender at the place I was yesterday was trans ( I think) and you shoulda seen what people were saying about her.. like a monkey at the zoo sigh Here's a better question, if it's so arbitrary why doesn't york just add LGBT to their equity policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Apparently it costs York nothing to add LGBTQ to their equity policy. The only reason they aren't doing it must be some weird phobia? I don't know. I'm pretty sure this won't pass, but I'm too anxious to properly enjoy my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 My prof posted a msg saying she's delaying our assignment by another week at least and she doesn't think it'll pass either (she's a humanities/social science prof) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 There is some talk now of trying to replace the bargaining team and executive team because there is a huge power struggle in the union. What a joke. This will be the worst strike in the history of the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolelol Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 There is some talk now of trying to replace the bargaining team and executive team because there is a huge power struggle in the union. What a joke. This will be the worst strike in the history of the universe. Does this mean the union's dissatisfied with the bargaining team's efforts? Maybe that's an indication that they're dissatisfied with york's offer and they'll vote to reject the deal? I selfishly hope the strike continues for like 2 weeks longer, I really need the time :')) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Does this mean the union's dissatisfied with the bargaining team's efforts? Maybe that's an indication that they're dissatisfied with york's offer and they'll vote to reject the deal? I selfishly hope the strike continues for like 2 weeks longer, I really need the time :')) The ET voted that there will be no motions at the meeting tomorrow. Apparently they also voted to endorse the offer york presented. They will most certainly reject the offer. My concern is that there are some internal union politics that are driving extra tension within the union. This could be good if it significantly divides the union, but it would be bad if they refuse to accept an offer until the ET/BT are replaced. It could be absolute shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolelol Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The ET voted that there will be no motions at the meeting tomorrow. Apparently they also voted to endorse the offer york presented. They will most certainly reject the offer. My concern is that there are some internal union politics that are driving extra tension within the union. This could be good if it significantly divides the union, but it would be bad if they refuse to accept an offer until the ET/BT are replaced. It could be absolute shambles. I don't get it, what does it mean that there are no motions tomorrow? If they voted to endorse york's offer, how will they most certainly reject the offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I don't get it, what does it mean that there are no motions tomorrow? If they voted to endorse york's offer, how will they most certainly reject the offer? At most meetings, you can make motions and discuss them. This won't happen tomorrow. The execs voted to endorse the deal, but it looks like the general members are very strongly against it. I'm hoping a big showing from science TAs and pressure from execs can sway them. I'm about done with being on strike. I could use another week off, but if they dont accept now, I doubt it will end in the next 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Just read that the union exec is recommending a yes vote. That's crazy hard to believe they'd recommend giving up on red-line issues so quickly when they have decent bargaining leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I don't get it, what does it mean that there are no motions tomorrow? If they voted to endorse york's offer, how will they most certainly reject the offer? For example, a motion could be put forward that instructs the BT to not bring an offer for ratification unless it meets minimum red-line positions by each unit. From my (limited) understanding of general member meetings for unions, it is unusual to make this a motionless meeting but what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Someone on **DELETED** claims that denying motions is fairly common as it ensures the meeting finishes in an appropriate time. I don't know about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Someone on **DELETED** claims that denying motions is fairly common as it ensures the meeting finishes in an appropriate time. I don't know about that. Makes sense when you have regular membership meetings to begin but with this being the first since their last vote and the employer's offer it seems a bit odd? Either way, I am still beyond shocked to see the exec recommending voting yes to this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Anyone know what the split is between Unit 1, 2 and 3? Even if Unit 2 votes for it what 5 of unit 1 and 3 would also need to vote yes for it to pass a simple majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Anyone know what the split is between Unit 1, 2 and 3? Even if Unit 2 votes for it what 5 of unit 1 and 3 would also need to vote yes for it to pass a simple majority? Is it a simple majority? Cupe page said simple majority by unit. Not sure what that means. I'm taking it to mean that 2 units must ratify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Is it a simple majority? Cupe page said simple majority by unit. Not sure what that means. I'm taking it to mean that 2 units must ratify. Oh yes, sorry. It IS a simple majority in each unit. You're right! Good catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Oh yes, sorry. It IS a simple majority in each unit. You're right! Good catch. Just for clarification, if 2 units ratify and 1 does not, that is sufficient for it to go through? A simple majority in each unit seems like all 3 must vote in favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Just for clarification, if 2 units ratify and 1 does not, that is sufficient for it to go through? A simple majority in each unit seems like all 3 must vote in favour. The language that I am seeing is a simple majority by members in each unit. Not fully sure though but am checking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolelol Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/groups/BirdCoursesAtYorkU/permalink/10153159298644111/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Alright. I'm putting my http://anti-social.cc/ on so I can get some work done lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/groups/BirdCoursesAtYorkU/permalink/10153159298644111/ So lame. anyone else's courses missing from moodle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolelol Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 So lame. anyone else's courses missing from moodle? wtff all of them! But the courses on my list that are lingering from last year are still there. Conspiracy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 wtff all of them! But the courses on my list that are lingering from last year are still there. Conspiracy?? Yeah same thing for me. I checked my.yorku.ca and I'm still enrolled. York is in shambles right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Mine are still there (so far) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Mine have returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 So anyone want to make predictions about the vote? My gut tells me it will be rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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