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Hello, could someone from clinical years comment on the quality of the clinical training?

In addition, which campus is better, sudbury or thunder bay?

 

 

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hey! I'm currently in 2nd year, so technically not in the tradition "clinical years" for Canadian med schools, but I know from talking to students at other schools in Ontario, we have the most clinical experience at this level. I've already done rotations with gen surgery (got to assist!), gastroenterology, and am currently on my second one month rural family med placement where I'm seeing patients alone and coming up with assessments and management plans for patients.

I also know from upper year students that they have all had AMAZING clinical experience. The major benefit to NOSM, is that because we get sent out to all different centres in the North, you're often the only student on so you get first dibs on everything and don't have to stand behind 10 other students who have more seniority than you do.

Hope this helps. I know this was one of my concerns when applying to NOSM, but I can tell you I have no regretted it one bit and have been blown away by how much hands on experience I have had!

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Thank you very much for your input.

How about the residents? Are their clinical knowledge equally competent as compared to other schools? Are the attendings willing to teach? Is there dedicated morning and noon conferences?

 

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Interesting that you would question the quality of training at NOSM. Where did you get this vibe from? or are these your own assumptions based on the fact that it is a newer medical school or whether it is in a northern, less populated part of the country. I am not attacking your inquiry, just asking you to reflect on why you would post that or did you also post that in the U of T subforum, Queen's subforum and so on ....?

 

I think if you go on the NOSM website you will find that they quite proudly, for good reason, showcase their accomplishments ... a sampling ...

 

http://www.nosm.ca/about_us/media_room/media_releases/media_release.aspx?id=13467

 

http://www.nosm.ca/about_us/media_room/media_releases/media_release.aspx?id=12041

 

http://www.nosm.ca/about_us/media_room/media_releases/media_release.aspx?id=11087

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Interesting that you would question the quality of training at NOSM. Where did you get this vibe from? or are these your own assumptions based on the fact that it is a newer medical school or whether it is in a northern, less populated part of the country. I am not attacking your inquiry, just asking you to reflect on why you would post that or did you also post that in the U of T subforum, Queen's subforum and so on ....?

 

what "vibe" are you talking about?? It's an emotionless, straight-forward question...."I am not attacking your inquiry, just asking you to reflect on why you would post that.."

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I think it's a legitimate question Beef, especially is the OP isn't from N On and has no personal experience with the school. It is by far the newest school, so through no fault of its own doesn't have the reputation of say UofT, and doesn't have the well- known specialists of a more established school.

 

That being said, everyone I've talked to has said the lack of fellows, lower number of residents and med students means that you get opportunities earlier and and more in-depth than at any other school in canada. Ultimately I'd rathe get early personal experience as opposed to just being able to watch groundbreaking procedures, plus that's what electives are for.

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Clinical experiences is where NOSM excels. For example, at 2 weeks in we started our Structured Clinical Skills and on the 3rd week we were already seeing standardized patients (small groups: 4 students, 1 doc). At week 5, I was already on placement with a local physician (pairs: 2 students, 1 doc) during their clinic. Other classmates, were already in hospital doing rounds.

Have a doc you really like during any one of our classes, ask them if you can join them outside of class hours for extra clinical experiences (1 student, 1 doc). Some have already done 1 on 1 sessions with specialists. The opportunities are endless in this regard.

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hey! I'm currently in 2nd year, so technically not in the tradition "clinical years" for Canadian med schools, but I know from talking to students at other schools in Ontario, we have the most clinical experience at this level. I've already done rotations with gen surgery (got to assist!), gastroenterology, and am currently on my second one month rural family med placement where I'm seeing patients alone and coming up with assessments and management plans for patients.

I also know from upper year students that they have all had AMAZING clinical experience. The major benefit to NOSM, is that because we get sent out to all different centres in the North, you're often the only student on so you get first dibs on everything and don't have to stand behind 10 other students who have more seniority than you do.

Hope this helps. I know this was one of my concerns when applying to NOSM, but I can tell you I have no regretted it one bit and have been blown away by how much hands on experience I have had!

 

 

That sure sounds fun!!!

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Clinical experiences is where NOSM excels. For example, at 2 weeks in we started our Structured Clinical Skills and on the 3rd week we were already seeing standardized patients (small groups: 4 students, 1 doc). At week 5, I was already on placement with a local physician (pairs: 2 students, 1 doc) during their clinic. Other classmates, were already in hospital doing rounds.

Have a doc you really like during any one of our classes, ask them if you can join them outside of class hours for extra clinical experiences (1 student, 1 doc). Some have already done 1 on 1 sessions with specialists. The opportunities are endless in this regard.

 

 

That's why NOSM rhymes with AWESOME!

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