aloe12 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I just found out that I failed the MCCQE 1. I am a CMG and have a residency position for this July in Canada. Can someone tell me if there are any consequences for this. Ie. Do I need to get orders and prescriptions co-signed by staff. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japlanet Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Contact your postgrad office to double check but as far as I'm aware there are no consequences of this, besides the obvious expensive and annoying re-write. As long as you have a CPSO number you should be fine to write prescriptions (under the auspices of your supervisor, of course) - I got my CPSO number before the LMCC results came out so I don't think one relies on the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooty Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I read that you have to have your orders co-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixFlare500 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I read that you have to have your orders co-signed. I've also heard this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japlanet Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I've also heard this. I've heard it too but I suspect it's a rumor as I worked as a clerk with a PGY1 who had failed the LMCC and he cosigned my orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Med0123 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I heard you had to be cosigned too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I think it's probably a rumour too. Call etc. would become basically impossible if you had to get cosigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japlanet Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 OP please help us put the rumour down if you talk to your program and get the real answer. This person managed to finish residency without passing the part 1 so I have to doubt he was being cosigned the whole time!! http://www.premed101.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38655 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostintime Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Sorry to hear that, it's an ambiguous test, you'll pass it the second time no problem! I heard it's program dependent and some residents told me they've seen people require co-signs (personally never seen this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boodog Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Sorry to hear that, it's an ambiguous test, you'll pass it the second time no problem! I heard it's program dependent and some residents told me they've seen people require co-signs (personally never seen this). Ya the whole if you fail LMCC you need things co-signed is a myth. You have a license from the regulating authority in your province to work as a resident physician under the supervision of staff. You do not need the MCCQE Part 1. Although, in order to work independantly, you do need to pass MCCQE 1 & 2. So eventually they need to be passed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I heard it's program dependent and some residents told me they've seen people require co-signs (personally never seen this). that is correct. since the PD gets the exact score and breakdown, they can decide what protections they would like to put in place. I've seen people have to cosign outpatient scripts, with nosignature required for inpatient orders. I've seen others have to get everything cosigned. For most, there are no repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Are you from Quebec OP? Because here if you fail the mccqe you can't start your residency in July... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloe12 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 No. In Ontario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justletmein Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Are you from Quebec OP? Because here if you fail the mccqe you can't start your residency in July... that is only laval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 that is only laval. UDM as well, maybe not McGill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxime Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sherbrooke too, can't start residency until LMCC part 1 is passed, since it's required to receive your diploma, and can't do residency without an MD in your pocket. Maxime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sherbrooke too, can't start residency until LMCC part 1 is passed, since it's required to receive your diploma, and can't do residency without an MD in your pocket. Maxime Yeah that's what I thought. So maybe this rule only applies to French schools then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Ya the whole if you fail LMCC you need things co-signed is a myth. You have a license from the regulating authority in your province to work as a resident physician under the supervision of staff. You do not need the MCCQE Part 1. Although, in order to work independantly, you do need to pass MCCQE 1 & 2. So eventually they need to be passed I think I've seen initial MD licenses have conditions restricting you to work within your residency program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justletmein Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Sherbrooke too, can't start residency until LMCC part 1 is passed, since it's required to receive your diploma, and can't do residency without an MD in your pocket. Maxime Well, at Laval you can start on August 1 if you pass their so-called practice LMCC exam in july. Which is ridiculous since the actual rewrite is in October. So basically, you get a few extra weeks to study and a month delay on your first paycheque, once most of us have already committed to leases, mortgages, car payments etc... so the whole "no MD before LMCC pass" is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennethToronto Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 that is correct. since the PD gets the exact score and breakdown, they can decide what protections they would like to put in place. I've seen people have to cosign outpatient scripts, with nosignature required for inpatient orders. I've seen others have to get everything cosigned. For most, there are no repercussions. What evidence do you have that PDs get the exact score breakdown of your MCCQE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justletmein Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 What evidence do you have that PDs get the exact score breakdown of your MCCQE? exactly. I call BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyGuy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 You do NOT have to get your orders cosigned if you fail the LMCC Part 1. The only consequence is that you have to rewrite Part 1 before you can write Part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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