dreamerman Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 I would like to know everyone's opinions on piracy. I admit I do not pay for most of my music and software:o. I feel no guilt for doing it and my reason is that I just don't have enough money. Take iTunes for an example: 1.29 for every song!!! With a 4000 song library, I would be broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ace of Spades Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 I would like to know everyone's opinions on piracy. I admit I do not pay for most of my music and software:o. I feel no guilt for doing it and my reason is that I just don't have enough money. Take iTunes for an example: 1.29 for every song!!! With a 4000 song library, I would be broke. I'm not commenting on piracy, but that's a terrible justification you gave. I can't afford a Ferrari right now but I sure as hell ain't going to go jack one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinkles Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 another argument to be made....would you buy those same things if it were cheaper? I know buying a fulla dobe suit is $1000 + so a lot of people pirate for that reason....but what if it were $250 (75% off) would you still pirate? or would you buy? Cause at a certain point its a matter of "I can't afford" and at another point its a "I want this but dont wanna pay money for it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchToast Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 I don't pirate, but I don't pay either because it's too expensive. I, too, would be beyond broke. I resort to YouTube. It sucks because I haven't updated my iPod in years, but it's just really way too expensive. (I do have some songs on iTunes because I used to buy a CD once in a while and sometimes people would send me music. Also, when I was in rez, I used DC++ which I guess is technically pirating, but I didn't feel as guilty because I knew that I wouldn't have access to it if I hadn't forked over lots of cash for residence and RezNet - and I figured it's like sharing with your family .) I definitely would buy music if it were, say, 25 cents per song. I hope iTunes is listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psqu Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 I'm not commenting on piracy, but that's a terrible justification you gave. I can't afford a Ferrari right now but I sure as hell ain't going to go jack one. Yeah, but would you jack one if the original one was left exactly as it was? The original owner has a Ferrari, and you'd have one too! Win-win. The problem is the designer of the "content" is not in the loop. Then it becomes a matter of price, how much money should they get? When the price and platform is right, digital distribution works well. Look at Steam's Summer/Holiday sales. I've boughten $100s of stuff on impulse and to avoid the hassle of piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosuperman Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Pirating Game of Thrones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasiunut Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I would like to know everyone's opinions on piracy. I admit I do not pay for most of my music and software:o. I feel no guilt for doing it and my reason is that I just don't have enough money. Take iTunes for an example: 1.29 for every song!!! With a 4000 song library, I would be broke. Thats the worst reasoning ever - to me, stealing is stealing. $1.29 isn't that much, you don't NEED to buy every song you like. How is that any different from walking into HMV and taking some CDs? The only time I've ever illegally downloaded music was when I couldn't actually find the song to purchase anywhere (it was a small New Zealand band) but I still went ahead and bought their CD when I went to NZ a few years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gametime24 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I would like to know everyone's opinions on piracy. I admit I do not pay for most of my music and software:o. I feel no guilt for doing it and my reason is that I just don't have enough money. Take iTunes for an example: 1.29 for every song!!! With a 4000 song library, I would be broke. I've got no problem with it, I probably have 200+ movies and about 6000 songs, all torrented. I do, however, still pay money to go see the artists live when they come to a city close to me. So I support them in some way . just for lolz. http://www.traemcneely.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wpid-WHEN-YOU-PIRATE-MUSIC...-525x3331.jpeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamerman Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I've got no problem with it, I probably have 200+ movies and about 6000 songs, all torrented. I do, however, still pay money to go see the artists live when they come to a city close to me. So I support them in some way . just for lolz. http://www.traemcneely.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wpid-WHEN-YOU-PIRATE-MUSIC...-525x3331.jpeg Exactly! They are still supported in other ways, such as live shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojjanhorse Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 another argument to be made....would you buy those same things if it were cheaper? I know buying a fulla dobe suit is $1000 + so a lot of people pirate for that reason....but what if it were $250 (75% off) would you still pirate? or would you buy? Cause at a certain point its a matter of "I can't afford" and at another point its a "I want this but dont wanna pay money for it" That's a good point. I also don't want to comment on piracy, but I'm no saint when it comes to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apixaban85 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 One interesting argument I've seen for piracy is that people who pirate games are not likely to buy that game regardless, so the company itself isn't actually losing money, because if that game was not available as a pirated version then the person who downloaded the pirated version wouldn't buy it anyways (if you follow what I mean). Like the games I have heard of people 'illegally' downloading recently are stupid games that they would probably never buy regardless of the price, but just wanted to try for the heck of it (Airport Tycoon, The Movies etc.). However, when a really good game comes out, regardless of the price, I will always buy it (eg. Elder Scrolls, NHL series, Halo etc.) despite these games being EASILY available in pirated versions. The cost complaint is certainly a partially valid one. With most games costing $50-60 a piece, this is out of the price range for some people. And that's where the genius of a distributor like Steam comes in. And they recognize that in order to lower piracy rates you don't make harsher and harsher laws, rather you make a more competitive product. Steam sales are HUGE and allow a lot of people to buy the games for reasonable prices, and I guarantee you this reduces piracy in the short and long run. iTunes is a similar product for music that I think is having a good effect, though I don't generally download music and instead just stream on YouTube as well haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 i like free music and saving on overpriced textbooks… i go to lots of shows anyways, sure as hell going to hand sony a bunch of cash, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gametime24 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 i like free music and saving on overpriced textbooks… i go to lots of shows anyways, sure as hell going to hand sony a bunch of cash, lol textbooks are a huge one for me too. And I'm in the same boat that, if I couldn't pirate it, I would simply do without. I love my 200 films, but without pirating, I would have bought at most 5. And I have bought those 5, because, if I really like something, I'll buy the hardcopy. Other than that, I'm not shelling out that money, even if I had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Please don't call it "piracy", because it's not. This is piracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy, and it gets people killed. Equating the copying of a .mp3 file with the murder of people at sea serves no purpose. Instead, we should call it what it is: "copyright infringement". Not piracy. Not theft. And yes, it's wrong. But I ain't no saint either ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shady Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Everyone loves a politically correct pedant. <3 10 char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I specially wouldn't spend $50-60 on a console game when I can probably get the same game on an android tablet for $5. As for MP3s, I'm pretty sure even if itunes sold an MP3 for 5 cents, most people would still not pay for it. I remember one of those famous rappers once commented about illegally downloading his music by saying as long as people listen to his music, he doesn't give a **** if they pay for it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinkles Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I specially wouldn't spend $50-60 on a console game when I can probably get the same game on an android tablet for $5. As for MP3s, I'm pretty sure even if itunes sold an MP3 for 5 cents, most people would still not pay for it. I remember one of those famous rappers once commented about illegally downloading his music by saying as long as people listen to his music, he doesn't give a **** if they pay for it or not. Its true. Pirating isnt new yet you dont see any famous artists hurting. The money comes through other means (have you seen the price tag on concerts lately?!) I think if you are talented enough you will make the big $$ And side note, I laughed so hard this one time...I was flipping through channels and some rapper was being interviewed and they asked him about piracy/people stealing his music and he said its wrong and criminal etc etc....this was about 5 minutes after he told the interviewer about how growing up in the hood he would go into rich neighbourhoods and break into people's cars and how he used to be a dealer. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 you, know i'm offended he didn't mention the pirate party of canada, they do important work and to flagrantly misrepresent them belittles the work of dozens, lol. Everyone loves a politically correct pedant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchToast Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 One interesting argument I've seen for piracy is that people who pirate games are not likely to buy that game regardless, so the company itself isn't actually losing money, because if that game was not available as a pirated version then the person who downloaded the pirated version wouldn't buy it anyways (if you follow what I mean). Like the games I have heard of people 'illegally' downloading recently are stupid games that they would probably never buy regardless of the price, but just wanted to try for the heck of it (Airport Tycoon, The Movies etc.). However, when a really good game comes out, regardless of the price, I will always buy it (eg. Elder Scrolls, NHL series, Halo etc.) despite these games being EASILY available in pirated versions. The cost complaint is certainly a partially valid one. With most games costing $50-60 a piece, this is out of the price range for some people. And that's where the genius of a distributor like Steam comes in. And they recognize that in order to lower piracy rates you don't make harsher and harsher laws, rather you make a more competitive product. Steam sales are HUGE and allow a lot of people to buy the games for reasonable prices, and I guarantee you this reduces piracy in the short and long run. iTunes is a similar product for music that I think is having a good effect, though I don't generally download music and instead just stream on YouTube as well haha Airport Tycoon exists? Where do I download this? Must. Construct. Pretty (and efficient). Terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apixaban85 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Airport Tycoon exists? Where do I download this? Must. Construct. Pretty (and efficient). Terminal. There's pretty much a tycoon game for anything nowadays. My favorites are still Monopoly, Roller Coaster and, somewhat, Lemonade but that gets boring fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaganS Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 There's pretty much a tycoon game for anything nowadays. My favorites are still Monopoly, Roller Coaster and, somewhat, Lemonade but that gets boring fast. And Zoo Tycoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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