Aetherus Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I was just wondering out of curiosity if anyone knew how many people applied in total in Ontario for Medical School admissions for this application cycle (2014) as well as if anyone knew how many people applied to each specific school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitty Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Google is your friend. There is a TON of data on this. E.G. http://www.ouac.on.ca/statistics/med_app_stats/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygella Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 There is this: http://www.ouac.on.ca/statistics/med_app_stats/ I think they will update it to include 2014 data sometime in sept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherus Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sorry, I found this link on OMSAS. I should have better phrased my post. I was specifically asking for this application cycle (2014). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurefamilydoc Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Check the 2015 OMSAS guide, it has the numbers from this past cycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarvish Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 For the lazy: School - Applied - Accepted Mac - 4973 - 203 NOSM - 2115 - 64 Ottawa (English) - 3751 -116 Ottawa (French) - 416 - 48 Queen's - 4374 - 100 Toronto - 3463 - 259 Western - 2623 - 171 All of Ontario - 21715 - 961 (5982 people sent in 19673 applications) Not sure where the difference between 19673 and 21715 comes from though. The 5982 is also the EXACT same number of applicants as last year which is kind of odd, maybe an error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygella Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 The fact that the number of applicants for 2014 is exactly the same as 2013 seems very peculiar... I suspect there was an oversight, because the number of applications for each school (excluding western) has increased significantly from 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherus Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Thanks for finding the stats! I didn't even think about looking at the OMSAS 2015 booklet for the stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givemethenews Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Never noticed that Western had 165 registrants in 2013. Does anyone know the reason/if it's the same this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameltingbanana Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Queens, Ottawa, and Mac have more applicants than Toronto!? This is definitely news to me, and slightly confusing IMO. I always imagined Toronto as the most "recognizable" of the ON universities with medical schools, and figured applications would go in there by the truckload. Is it the multiple essays that are turning people off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeynut Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Queens, Ottawa, and Mac have more applicants than Toronto!? This is definitely news to me, and slightly confusing IMO. I always imagined Toronto as the most "recognizable" of the ON universities with medical schools, and figured applications would go in there by the truckload. Is it the multiple essays that are turning people off? Ottawa doesn't need the MCAT while UofT puts a large emphasis on GPA and research which, at least I imagine, puts people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherus Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I think it also has something to do with prerequisites. Queen's and Mac have the most applications and have no prerequisites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygella Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Mac also has a very low VR and GPA cut-off. Queens doesn't disclose their cut-offs so people apply hoping to get an interview. To answer a previous question, western took 171 students for the 2014 cycle. I was certainly surprised to see that they took 165 in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoss Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Really it just comes down to how many people can apply and realistically think they have a shot at admission. Low or no cutoffs increase the number of applications, as well as fewer prerequisites and more subjective admission criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta721 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 For the lazy: School - Applied - AcceptedMac - 4973 - 203 NOSM - 2115 - 64 Ottawa (English) - 3751 -116 Ottawa (French) - 416 - 48 Queen's - 4374 - 100 Toronto - 3463 - 259 Western - 2623 - 171 All of Ontario - 21715 - 961 (5982 people sent in 19673 applications) Not sure where the difference between 19673 and 21715 comes from though. The 5982 is also the EXACT same number of applicants as last year which is kind of odd, maybe an error. I add another column "Success rate %" for more convenience: 2013 Application Cycle Med School - Success Rate % McMaster - 4.08 NOSM - 3.03 Ottawa (English) - 3.09 Ottawa (French) - 11.54 Queen's - 2.29 Toronto - 7.48 Western - 6.52 All of Ontario - 4.43 And this does not take into account the caliber of the applicants, in terms of GPA, MCAT, EC, research ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackowl Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I add another column "Success rate %" for more convenience: 2013 Application Cycle Med School - Success Rate % McMaster - 4.08 NOSM - 3.03 Ottawa (English) - 3.09 Ottawa (French) - 11.54 Queen's - 2.29 Toronto - 7.48 Western - 6.52 All of Ontario - 4.43 And this does not take into account the caliber of the applicants, in terms of GPA, MCAT, EC, research ... Keeping in mind that there were 19000 applications from 5000 applicants or so, and in the end just under 1000 get accepted, the number of applicants who get into a school is more like 1/5.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Birdy Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Don't forget waitlist movement. For many schools, if you can just get an interview, you've typically got about about a 30-50% chance of being offered a seat at that school because of how many people turn down offers. It's up to 100 or so a year at some schools. Say a school has 180 seats, interviews 500 people, and has 100 declined offers. 280 people who interviewed will receive an offer from that school by the time the class is full. We don't need to be looking at the whole applicant numbers or the successful applicant numbers (3% of applicants getting in looks terrifying!); we just need to look at the stats for the people who get interviews. Looking at the entire pool - which includes people applying with no idea what they are doing - or just the successful applicants can be intimidating. If you can get interviews, particularly more than one, you have a really good shot at getting an offer, either in May or off a waitlist. At least this is what I tell myself to keep my panic level down about this whole thing hah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherus Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 UofT is definetely a rly good school, but I would not say it is the hardest to get in. It has less applications, more spots, a more holistic process (which let's you compensate for weaker aspects of your application). Having gone through the process recently, I would say all schools are challenging to get in and each give an advantage to a certain type of applicant. Personally, I would say Queen's is the hardest to get in for the following reasons: Statistically you have the worst chances The admissions is in sequential steps with hard cutoffs meaning you need to make every cutoff to get an interview. This means that you cannot have a weaker aspect of your application or you are automatically eliminated. Finally they interview 500 people for 100 spots and the post interview score is 100% interview meaning you better be amazing at interviews. Also the waitlidy barely moves compared to all other schools (UofT is probably the only waitlist that moves as little). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindylouwho Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Finally they interview 500 people for 100 spots and the post interview score is 100% interview meaning you better be amazing at interviews. Has this ever been confirmed in writing for the last couple of years? I was undergrad at Queen's and went to a Q&A with some 2017s and 2016s, and was told we cannot assume this is the case. I know it is the conventionally held belief. Btw congrats Aetherus on getting into the hardest school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dassy Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Has this ever been confirmed in writing for the last couple of years? I was undergrad at Queen's and went to a Q&A with some 2017s and 2016s, and was told we cannot assume this is the case. I know it is the conventionally held belief. Btw congrats Aetherus on getting into the hardest school It's never been confirmed, but many people believe that the interview is a large portion of the post-interview score. I believe that they still factor in your ABS score and probably give your ref letters a quick glance for pass/fail (like most schools). It's likely that your interview score at Queens will just move your pre-interview-ranked position, which is essentially based solely on the ABS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmitty Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 It's useless to try to say which school is the 'hardest' to get into - what does that even mean? Most schools have very different ways in evaluating students. I.e. UofO requires the highest GPA to get an interview, does that mean it's the hardest? I got into U of T, Queens, Western and Manitoba, but got rejected pre-interview from UofO and Mac, does that means UofO and Mac are harder to get into? No, it's just differences in the evaluation process. Some people get into U of T but rejected from others (like me), some others get rejected from U of T but get into others like U of O or Queens, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simons Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Ya I think the 'hardest school to get into' will be completely different for different kinds of applicants with different strengths in their applications. I interviewed at all 4 ontario schools I applied to (rejected pre-interview from Dal), and ended up getting offers from Toronto and Western, and waitlisted at Queens and Mac. That might say something about my MMI performance, because I definitely felt better my about panel/traditional style interviews than MMI. So for me, U of T was 'easier to get into' than Mac, because that's where I got in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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