highlander88 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 hey Are clerkships basically the medical student observing the residents and the attending physicians passively? When we start our clerkships will we actually be Doing anything, or just learning (cause I assume we'll be pretty ignorant at that stage in time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asurani Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 hi, i am a 3rd year medical student at Dow University of Health Sciences Karachi, Pakistan. I am interested in doing electives at Uoft In cardiology or oncology.Can any one please help me out with it. i 1.Can you guide me about the mode of electives? means is this an observership, teaching sessions or what? will we be taught any thing there? will we be allowed to perform any skills on patients like history taking or physical? please help me out with this... 2. At the time of electives, I'll be in my early fourth year. is this a suitable time for me to pursue this elective? In other words, will the information gained or provided be appropriate at my (early 4Th year) level. . 3. i am also planing to apply in cardilogy or oncolgy. is this a good choice for electives? in your views which fields are much better for electives at Toronto University? will appreciate your response in this regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebouque Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Clerkship ISN'T observership. I'm not a clerkship student yet but clerkship and observership are 2 very different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsuma Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 To the OP: clerkship is NOT observership. You will be responsible for a certain number of pts on some rotations (eg internal) and will need to follow-them daily, write orders (which will be cosigned by resident/staff at some point), write progress notes, follow-up on lab results etc. You will also be doing admissions (after the senior resident or staff has agreed to admit to the service). On surgical rotations you will assist in the OR...which often means being a human retractor - but you'll probably get to close now and then etc. Anesthesia - you'll get to get the pt prepped by doing the IVs and intubating etc. Depending on the school you go to, you may be 1st call to deal with floor issues. At Ottawa this was the case for me. However, it seems at MAC this is not the case. And students keep telling me about how they get to sleep on their internal medicine rotations!! Yes, you are right, you won`t know a whole lot, especially at the beginning. But you always have the residents and/or staff to call on if the pt is having urgent issues or you have questions. And that is how you learn...by doing stuff. Just get used to feeling stupid, cause you are supposed to feel that way! To Asurani: you need to go to the UofT medical electives website. I think it is unlikely that they have spots for elective students from international schools, but I am not sure, so best to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploughboy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 And students keep telling me about how they get to sleep on their internal medicine rotations!! *boggle* Just get used to feeling stupid, cause you are supposed to feel that way! Concur. It gets worse in residency. Hope pgy-1 is treating you well, Sats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madz25 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 hey Are clerkships basically the medical student observing the residents and the attending physicians passively? When we start our clerkships will we actually be Doing anything, or just learning (cause I assume we'll be pretty ignorant at that stage in time). agree with satsuma - you feel stupid every day. i've never said "i dont know" so many times in my life. in medicine, you learn by doing not by watching. clerkship is your chance to learn how to take care of patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostintime Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Are you with your clerkship group a lot? Are you constantly working together with them or do you guys generally do your own thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lactic Folly Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I agree that clerkship can be stressful because of subjective evaluations which may impact your CaRMS application. However, as a clerk I had more time to spend with my patients, which I think we both appreciated. And residents are still evaluated, just not in the same way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Stark Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I'm generally pretty excited about clerkship and the end of "normal" school. We've just gotten our tracks for next year and I've more or less figured out my selectives for IM and surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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