RyGuy123 Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 What countries allow canadian students right out of high school study med? (please give countries with adecent match rate.....not countries like Afganistan) thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannn Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 Here is a good resource for you to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted July 7, 2010 Report Share Posted July 7, 2010 What countries allow canadian students right out of high school study med?(please give countries with adecent match rate.....not countries like Afganistan) thanks A country called Quebec after 2 years of college if you are resident of Quebec. Caribbean countries if you are also a Caribbean citizen. I know one student who just graduated grade 12 from ON and it is almost certain that she will go to med school in the fall. You can get into med school in the UK. Afganistan does not yet have a med school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 What countries allow canadian students right out of high school study med?(please give countries with adecent match rate.....not countries like Afganistan) thanks Flawed question. There's no country with a decent match rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redshifteffect Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Ireland and Australia both allow out of highschool students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyGuy123 Posted July 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 ^^ but international students can go straight out of high school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashmetoo Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 ^^ but international students can go straight out of high school? If outside of North America, ya, you can go start med straight out of highschool. Canadians can also go straight to med school out of high school in England/Ireland, but it'll be a 6 year program at ~40,000 Euros a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redshifteffect Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 If outside of North America, ya, you can go start med straight out of highschool. Canadians can also go straight to med school out of high school in England/Ireland, but it'll be a 6 year program at ~40,000 Euros a year. There are 5 year medical schools in Australia, but most are even more competitive to get into then the 6 year ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyGuy123 Posted July 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 There are 5 year medical schools in Australia, but most are even more competitive to get into then the 6 year ones. What would they be looking for from an international student standpoint and money is not a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redshifteffect Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Basically grades, and there are lots of rich internationals, for who money is also not a problem. So unless you have good highschool grades, you are very unlikely to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 and ECs and volunteering....they want to ensure that you are a top student who is well rounded in terms of sports or whatever and have tried to make a contribution to society, e.g., tutoring kids, coaching sports, active in church, etc. I know a h.s. student with well over 90% average who is sports minded and very active in the community. The competition is intense and those who do not make it will go to UG and try next year. There is the same problem as here, i.e., a greater number of excellent candidates than seats available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyGuy123 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 and ECs and volunteering....they want to ensure that you are a top student who is well rounded in terms of sports or whatever and have tried to make a contribution to society, e.g., tutoring kids, coaching sports, active in church, etc. I know a h.s. student with well over 90% average who is sports minded and very active in the community. The competition is intense and those who do not make it will go to UG and try next year. There is the same problem as here, i.e., a greater number of excellent candidates than seats available. Alright my "sketch" is as follows, 110 volunteer hours last summer at surgical skills Mt. Sanai, Volunteer for my church i.e sitting at salvation army kettles in the christmas period, Currently volunteering at Mt. Sanai for CT scan, Work full time at the FGICR at Mt. Sanai, Coach my brothers baseball team, Play baseball and curling and skiing, I am in enviromental club at school, And i am the treasuser of my high school. My average is about 85 in grade eleven and money is no objective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmmm Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Alright my "sketch" is as follows,110 volunteer hours last summer at surgical skills Mt. Sanai, Volunteer for my church i.e sitting at salvation army kettles in the christmas period, Currently volunteering at Mt. Sanai for CT scan, Work full time at the FGICR at Mt. Sanai, Coach my brothers baseball team, Play baseball and curling and skiing, I am in enviromental club at school, And i am the treasuser of my high school. My average is about 85 in grade eleven and money is no objective Whats the hurry, why do you want to get in after high school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyGuy123 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Whats the hurry, why do you want to get in after high school? Because I really don't want to go through the whole UG, because two classes can affect if you do or dont, not to mention how they base med school here off of the lotto 6/49. And I have connections here such as my Aunt being a top surgoen at toronto general her knowing many people so going to AUS route makes the most sense to me, not to mention it is a beautiful country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmmm Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Well if you say that.... Although I think the "extra-time" spent in UG is enriching and is helpful. Not necessarily the coursework but life experience. But if you confident that your ability get a match, and you are hell-bent on avoiding UG you might as well go to Australia. Go play some cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Well if you say that.... Although I think the "extra-time" spent in UG is enriching and is helpful. Not necessarily the coursework but life experience. But if you confident that your ability get a match, and you are hell-bent on avoiding UG you might as well go to Australia. Go play some cricket and just be very aware of the problems coming back to Canada via this route and the issues practising in Aus as well etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmmm Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 and just be very aware of the problems coming back to Canada via this route and the issues practising in Aus as well etc. Yea there are too many problems going abroad. I was planning to go abroad at one point but decided against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyGuy123 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 and just be very aware of the problems coming back to Canada via this route and the issues practising in Aus as well etc. My aunt is a vital part in picking residency spots for the general surgery at UHN, so im not worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyGuy123 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Yea there are too many problems going abroad. I was planning to go abroad at one point but decided against it. Connections baby connections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmmm Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Connections baby connections Fortunately you have them. Not everyone does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyGuy123 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Fortunately you have them. Not everyone does. Exactement, not to be pompous and self indulgent with them, but hell if you have them use em, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmmm Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Exactement, not to be pompous and self indulgent with them, but hell if you have them use em, correct? Why not . But before you jump in do you research...thoroughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyGuy123 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Why not . But before you jump in do you research...thoroughly. Yap, This is why I am asking so many questions, and if the stars align I should be a GS in no time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailey_medschool Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 trolling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosuperman Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Some things to consider >> Any unforeseen changes that could alter the selection process or your aunts contribution to it over the next 5-6 years could screw you over huge. Changes in personnel, board members, program directors, political landscape, funding, and personal things such as your aunt's career path, health, family obligations etc. could all conspire to help or hinder your chances at achieving an outcome so far away. You'd have to do the return of service contract as an IMG which would be pretty long for surgery (don't they make it match the length of the residency? I'm not sure...) and it'd be $250k more in tuition to leave Canada. You also don't know if some other Program Director's family member will be banking on the same strategy for the very limited number of spots. This is obviously the downside and you've already mentioned the upside - if it works out you get a residency when most people would be starting clerkships. You'd be 2 or 3 years ahead of where you'd be had you taken an undergrad, but with more debt and the ROS to consider. I'm not saying anything is likely (or unlikely) to happen, just that you'll probably make the best decision for you if you take a realistic view of the degree of certainty of something 5-6 years away into account. Even if your aunt is the program director, it'd be short-sighted to say "I'm not worried" at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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