thehumanmacbook Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Most+sexual+misconduct+complaints+involve+foreign+trained+report/4241411/story.html?cid=megadrop_story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 This does not surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hking03 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 maybe the canadian trained doctors were better able to cover their tracks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quackster Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 or the rigorous selection process to be an MD in Canada weeds out more of those immoral individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 This article only pertains to Saskatchewan... Who knows if foreign-trained MDs have more problems in any other province or canada (or north america) in general.. Also, I'm pretty sure the reason behind this is corruption. In most countries outside of North America and Western europe, the legal system or police in general do not reply strongly to complaints from women about doctors. Whereas in Canada, the police and legal system pounce on complaints like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBP Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110223/sexual-assault-accused-doctors-110223/20110223?hub=TorontoNewHome No comment for or against, just found this and thought it was relevant. Already a thread about these 2 docs. In relation to this new thread, one is Canadian trained, other is foreign trained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange123 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Most+sexual+misconduct+complaints+involve+foreign+trained+report/4241411/story.html?cid=megadrop_story I think it would be interesting to see the difference between males and females too. I'm surprised the article did not comment on this. My hypothesis is that males are more likely to be complained against, regardless of having acted inappropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hking03 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I think it would be interesting to see the difference between males and females too. I'm surprised the article did not comment on this. My hypothesis is that males are more likely to be complained against, regardless of having acted inappropriately. good hypothesis. possible scenarios and likely outcome: guys get touched inappropriately by female physician= start of a movie girls get touched inappropriately by male physician= start of a lawsuit guys get touched inappropriately by male physician= start of a fight girls get touched inappropriately by female physician= start of a movie p.s. this is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourning Cloak Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Also, I'm pretty sure the reason behind this is corruption. In most countries outside of North America and Western europe, the legal system or police in general do not reply strongly to complaints from women about doctors. Whereas in Canada, the police and legal system pounce on complaints like this. Not sure what you're saying . . . do you mean that 93% of Saskatchewan's sexual misconduct complaints are against foreign-trained MDs versus Canadian-trained MDs because the foreign-trained MDs think they can get away with it (because they got away with it back home)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slashsev Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 there have been many cases of canadian trained md's abusing the system/people... go read the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 What a great movie. "Hi I'm here to clean your pool" "but we don't have a pool"....boo wack ah woo woo I think you meant: bow chicka wow wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hking03 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Not sure what you're saying . . . do you mean that 93% of Saskatchewan's sexual misconduct complaints are against foreign-trained MDs versus Canadian-trained MDs because the foreign-trained MDs think they can get away with it (because they got away with it back home)? or maybe he's saying that it happens everywhere, just that here people get caught because the police/legal system aren't corrupt... however, that doesn't really explain the vast difference in numbers stated in the report when comparing foreign-trained vs canadian-trained md's. if that were the case the numbers should be more evenly distributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Not sure what you're saying What I mean is exactly what I said in my previous post; go read it again. I don't feel the need to spell it out any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mourning Cloak Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Actually, our small group discussed this yesterday with a family doc who doubles as an ethicist. Summary: 1) This discrepancy may reflect (in part) cultural differences / communication problems 2) The Star Phoenix's timing could have been better (e.g. choosing not to publish this particular report at this particular moment in time) 3) At any rate, it's not feasible for any province to operate without foreign-trained medical talent (or male physicians, for that matter) 4) The overall number of complaints is low. In the 20 year period between '85-'05, the number of formally investigated complaints numbered around 2/year. That means that thousands of docs managed to see tens of thousands of patients without incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer08 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 or the rigorous selection process to be an MD in Canada weeds out more of those immoral individuals. Its not that easy to get into a medschool is the US or Australia either. You are just assuming all foreign trained MD's are educated in the Carribean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quackster Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Its not that easy to get into a medschool is the US or Australia either. You are just assuming all foreign trained MD's are educated in the Carribean. how are you presuming to know what I am assuming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind_synergy Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 how are you presuming to know what I am assuming? How are you presuming to know that he is assuming that you are assuming he is presuming to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMaverick Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 How are you presuming to know that he is assuming that you are assuming he is presuming to know? This is how nerds fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 i agree, because i know "real" img's, not random joe from canada who goes to the caribbean (i live with one (non-caribbean/american/australian grad), and study with a bunch of them), the difficulty of getting an img spot here is so cut-throat the average canadian grad couldn't hold a candle to the 1 img that gets a spot in neuro in an entire province. these guys write god knows how many exams, have top scores, do osces, have to ace english fluency exams. these guys go through a more rigorous selection process than the average canadian medical student will ever have to. one of the big problems no one ever talks about is the fact that we train **** loads of sponsored residents from saudi arabia and other countries, what a load of bull****, we have doctors here who want to practice in canada but we just sell residency positions to the highest bidders, but that's a whole other issue. how are you presuming to know what I am assuming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBP Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 i agree, because i know "real" img's, not random joe from canada who goes to the caribbean (i live with one (non-caribbean/american/australian grad), and study with a bunch of them), the difficulty of getting an img spot here is so cut-throat the average canadian grad couldn't hold a candle to the 1 img that gets a spot in neuro in an entire province. these guys write god knows how many exams, have top scores, do osces, have to ace english fluency exams. these guys go through a more rigorous selection process than the average canadian medical student will ever have to. They better have to if they didn't go through our education standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavanshir Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110223/sexual-assault-accused-doctors-110223/20110223?hub=TorontoNewHome No comment for or against, just found this and thought it was relevant. That's interesting. I didn't understand finally was that naval reserves guy a medical student or a plastic surgeon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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