mattg Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 any idea why there was 37 Ontario med school applicants that went unmatched in the first iteration this cycle, in contrast to their being only 1 last cycle? or am i reading this wrong... (i.e. is "Prior year graduates unmatched" referring to people who graduated last year, didn't enter residency last year, applied this year, and didn't get in R-1?) http://carms.ca/pdfs/2011R1_MatchResults/39_Applicant%20Pool%20by%20Medical%20School_2nd%20Iteration_en.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I think the column labelled Prior Year Graduates Unmatched 1st Iteration refers to people from the class of 2010 who tried to match this year and did not get a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumanmacbook Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Is this because those individuals only gunned for more competitive specialties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Is this because those individuals only gunned for more competitive specialties? It could be a combination of many factors. The CaRMS guide states that most people do not match because they either did not list enough programs (it's recommended to list all programs you can see yourself at), were not realistic about their career goals (so I'm guessing sub-par interviews, not enough electives, no research if it's a very competitive field, and inappropriate amount of recommendation letters) or had some sort of red flag on their application. Mind you that a majority of people do match to their first choice discipline (I think in the range of 85-90% of people) but fewer people match to their first choice program (more in the range of 60-65%). CaRMS is an interesting game...still haven't learned that much about it, maybe a more experienced student or a resident could comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Carms sucks. It'll suck even worse when the expanded medical school classes get to experience it. Write, and crush, the USMLE. Think of it as your contingency plan. Don't be so sure you'll want to do family medicine and therefore will not need any contingency plans. That's what I'd do if I had my day over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 The one person is a 2010 grad who entered the second round THIS year. So you were reading it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igeorgex Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 is the CaRMS data for this cycle released? I always have trouble on their website, if anyone can tell me how to find it that'd be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 If you go to the CaRMS section of this website there is a link there. Alternatively on the CaRMS website: Operations > Reports and Statistics > R-1 Match Reports > 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCat'sMeow Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Carms sucks. It'll suck even worse when the expanded medical school classes get to experience it. Write, and crush, the USMLE. Think of it as your contingency plan. Don't be so sure you'll want to do family medicine and therefore will not need any contingency plans. That's what I'd do if I had my day over again. Agreed, carms really does suck. I've seen some exceptional ppl get pretty disappointing outcomes. Seems very luck based which is unfortunate (letters from "important" ppl, making sure nobody wih a say dislikes you, showing well at interviews, freedom to move...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech10 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Get used to it. Admission to medical school, despite its vagaries, is still mainly based on merit. By the time of residency applications, interpersonal relations play a much bigger role, and by the time one starts applying for jobs, the soft skills of communication, good relationships, etc play a MUCH larger role than any measure of medical competence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Seems very luck based which is unfortunate (letters from "important" ppl' date=' making sure nobody wih a say dislikes you, showing well at interviews, freedom to move...)[/quote'] i wouldn't call that luck per se... it is important to put yourself in a position where you can get letters from important people / get to know people on the adcom, to make sure nobody with a say dislikes you, and you are well-prepared for the interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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