Two Lesbians Raised A Baby And This Is What They Got

[aaronjw]

http://front.moveon.org/two-lesbians-raised-a-baby-and-this-is-what-they-got/

 

 

My opinion is that this should have nothing to do with gay rights or their ability to raise children but should be about how exceptional parenting translates into exceptional people.

 

This kid speaks and conducts himself better than most adults I know. This is about exceptional parenting, nothing more and it's a shame that anything remotely gay needs to be associated to it because bad parents will raise bad kids and good parents will raise good kids regardless of their sexual preference.

[Outlaw]

Couldn't agree more. Thanks for sharing.

[future_doc]

I agree 100%!

[cnb88]

http://front.moveon.org/two-lesbians-raised-a-baby-and-this-is-what-they-got/

 

 

My opinion is that this should have nothing to do with gay rights or their ability to raise children but should be about how exceptional parenting translates into exceptional people.

 

This kid speaks and conducts himself better than most adults I know. This is about exceptional parenting, nothing more and it's a shame that anything remotely gay needs to be associated to it because bad parents will raise bad kids and good parents will raise good kids regardless of their sexual preference.

 

I absolutely love his very last sentence, "The sexual orientation of my parents has had zero effect on the content of my character."

 

I completely agree with what you've said aaron- bad parents come from all walks of life- all income levels, races, religions, and sexual orientations. Good parents come from all walks of life too. But they all have two things in common: love and caring for their children. It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from, what matters is the love and kindness inside.

 

Just because you practice/do/believe something that I do not, does not mean one of us is better than the other, or that I can't respect and love you for who you are. If more people realized this, I bet there'd be a lot less bullying and wars in the world.

[Dino]

I absolutely love his very last sentence, "The sexual orientation of my parents has had zero effect on the content of my character."

 

I completely agree with what you've said aaron- bad parents come from all walks of life- all income levels, races, religions, and sexual orientations. Good parents come from all walks of life too. But they all have two things in common: love and caring for their children. It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from, what matters is the love and kindness inside.

 

Just because you practice/do/believe something that I do not, does not mean one of us is better than the other, or that I can't respect and love you for who you are. If more people realized this, I bet there'd be a lot less bullying and wars in the world.

 

Good parenting is one thing. The child's innate personality is also very important. You can't raise a good psychopath. I have two cousins raised in the same household. One is making a goode living in the computer science field and the other one is an irresponsible bum who is constantly out of jail. I truly believe in the "bad seed" theory. Remember psychopaths already show signs during childhood. The common triad of behavioural issues consists of:

 

1 - Animal cruelty

2 - Fascination with fire / arson

3 - Bed-wetting late into childhood

 

I remember the bad cousin setting fire to the wood pile in the basement and almost burning down the house. He also was a late bed-wetter. I haven't heard if he commited cruelty to animals but it wouldn't surprise me.

 

Bad parenting though can definitely be harmful, even with chidren who would have turned-out good with good parenting.

[DOC_Ma]

Agree 100%. It's actually shocking to me how many people around me (some close friends mostly religious ones) are absolutely against gay marriage and don't want to have anything to do with them either. We need to make it right, they deserve all the rights that everyone else has.

[Dino]

The Charter of Rights is included The Constitution. These rights are meant to be universal and there should be no needs for special rights, but here we are. Gay rights are human rights. They should be allowed to do the same as others.

 

Religious organisations should however keep control of their dogmatic rules. If a religion cannot accept gay marriage, public protest and denigration should be of no use and no political power should be involved in this. When someone follows a religion, they are bound by the rules and have to follow them as being the will of God. It is not a Chinese restaurant menu where you chose "one from column A" and "one from column B", as Tom Leykis would say.

 

Religious people, however shouldn't push their religious rules on anyone outside their religion, period. If your religion doesn't allow gay marriage, then call it a civil marriage and call whatever you consider valid as a religious marriage and both sides get the hell out of each others private lives. Everyone can use their time more productively or leisurelily for the better good.

[kylamonkey]

If you want to read stuff along these lines, google Dan Savage's "Every child deserves a mother and a father"

 

Stories of bad parenting from "traditional" families. Very bad.

[questforstarfish]

This was wonderful, thanks for sharing The "sanctity" of marriage is much more threatened by adultery, marrying rich for the cash, Vegas shotgun weddings and domestic abuse than it ever could be by two human beings coming together to raise happy, respected and loved children.

[mMatthews]

http://front.moveon.org/two-lesbians-raised-a-baby-and-this-is-what-they-got/

 

 

My opinion is that this should have nothing to do with gay rights or their ability to raise children but should be about how exceptional parenting translates into exceptional people.

 

This kid speaks and conducts himself better than most adults I know. This is about exceptional parenting, nothing more and it's a shame that anything remotely gay needs to be associated to it because bad parents will raise bad kids and good parents will raise good kids regardless of their sexual preference.

 

I completely agree with you! There are good exceptions!

[future_doc]

From another thread:

 

http://www.newswise.com/articles/teenage-children-of-lesbian-moms-have-good-psychological-adjustment?ret=/articles/list&category=medicine&page=7&search[status]=3&search[sort]=date+desc&search[section]=10&search[has_multimedia]=

 

Teenage Children of Lesbian Moms Have Good Psychological Adjustment

 

Released:1/3/2012 10:00 AM EST

Source:Wolters Kluwer Health: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins

 

Study Finds Little or No Difference from Teens of Heterosexual Parents

 

Newswise — Philadelphia, Pa. (January 3, 2012) – Adolescent children of lesbian mothers report as good quality of life as those with heterosexual parents, reports a study in the January Journal of Developmental & Behavioral Pediatrics, the official journal of the Society for Developmental and Behavioral Pediatrics. The journal is published by Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, a part of Wolters Kluwer Health.

 

"Adolescent offspring in planned lesbian families do not show differences in quality of life when compared with adolescents reared in heterosexual families," concludes the new research, led by Loes van Gelderen, MSc, of University of Amsterdam.

 

Tests Show Normal Adjustment for Teens with Lesbian Moms

In the study, 78 U.S. adolescents with lesbian mothers—39 girls and 39 boys, average age 17—completed an online survey regarding quality of life. The teens were drawn from a long-term follow-up study of lesbian mothers, initially enrolled when they were pregnant or planning to become pregnant via sperm donation.

 

These adolescents’ responses were compared with those of a group of adolescents with heterosexual parents who completed the same survey. Key aspects of quality of life were compared between the two groups of teens.

 

The results showed that the teenaged children of lesbian mothers rated their quality of life similar to that of teens with heterosexual parents. For example, average agreement with the statement, 'I feel I am getting along with my parents/guardians' was about 8 on a 10-point scale in both groups of teens. For the statement, 'I look forward to the future,' the average score was about 9.

 

For all measures of adjustment, scores were unaffected by whether the teens knew the identity of the sperm donor or by whether the mother was still in a relationship with the woman who was her partner at the time of the child's birth.

 

About 40 percent of teens reported some kind of unfair treatment related to having a lesbian parent—being teased or ridiculed, being stereotyped, or being excluded from activities. However, these kinds of stigmatization did not affect the quality-of-life scores, suggesting resilience among these teens.

 

A growing body of evidence suggests that children of gay or lesbian parents have normal psychological adjustment. Most studies of this issue have looked at younger children, whereas adolescents may have a "keener awareness" that their parents' sexual orientation puts them in a minority group. In addition, most previous studies have focused on problem behaviors, rather than quality-of-life factors associated with good psychological adjustment.

 

"Adolescents living with lesbian parents function as well as, or sometimes better than, those reared by opposite-sex parents," van Gelderen and coauthors write. The study showing evidence of good adjustment is an important addition to previous research showing no difference in adjustment difficulties, such as depression, anxiety, and disruptive behaviors.

 

Adjustment is good despite high rates of teasing and other forms of stigmatization, which has previously been linked to behavior problems. Classmates were most often mentioned as the source of teasing or ridicule, "suggesting a need for schools to educate students in the appreciation of diversity and to enforce a zero-tolerance policy on bullying and stigmatization," the researchers add. "Such changes to the educational system would benefit youths from all family types."