BubbaBlue Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 The McMaster website states "Several hundred applicants will be invited for interviews" and that from this group 203 will be admitted. Does anyone have a more precise number than "several hundred"? Is it around 400 or closer to say 600? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinre Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Last year was somewhere around 500 ( a bit more if i recall). It's among the best odds of the ontario medical schools if you get an interview (UofT is better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaBlue Posted December 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Thanks for your reply Robinre. You're right - last year they interviewed 540 people out of 4210 applicants: http://www.fhs.mcmaster.ca/mdprog/documents/Classof2015.pdf Those are some very bad odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverCityJill Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think what robinre meant was that Mac doesn't interview that many people relative to the size of the class. So, if you get an interview you've got better odds of getting accepted than at most other schools. For example, I believe NOSM interviewed around 400 applicants for 64 spots last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojjanhorse Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think what robinre meant was that Mac doesn't interview that many people relative to the size of the class. So, if you get an interview you've got better odds of getting accepted than at most other schools. For example, I believe NOSM interviewed around 400 applicants for 64 spots last year. just shows how much trust they place on their CASPer system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaBlue Posted December 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Ha ha, yeah, I got Robinre's point about the odds being good IF you get an interview. I just realized the way I expressed myself makes it sound like I'm disagreeing with him. That wasn't my intention. Sorry For the life of me, I don't see how they can put so much emphasis on something you type in 90 minutes while completely ignoring your life experiences and previous career(s) for the purposes of deciding who gets an interview. Seems like a very strange and unreliable system to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinre Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I'm a girl . I think Mac likes casper because it puts people on an even playing field. A lot of people that have a tough life dont have the time to do fancy sports or do research or volunteer in their spare time because they have other commitmnets that take up a lot of energy, which puts them at a disadvantage for a lot of medical schools. by assessing people's values, intuition and ethical decisionmaking using casper they can observe the same fundamental skills that you would learn from being a part of a sports team or being involved with the community. or atleast... thats the idea :s. when i did it i wasn't so sure how well i was able to come off either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojjanhorse Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 My supervisor is a McMaster Alumnus and did his Neurology Residence at UofT. He is on the admission committee for both McMaster and UofT. He was actually one of the leaders in creating CASPer. He told me that the whole point behind CASPer is to find good people, simple as that. Schools try to avoid those who have had everything spoon fed to them and find students who crawled and fought their way up with real sincere experiences. You do well on CASPer because you have had enough life experiences to deal with. You build your life and clinical accumen while you're outside, in class, with family, and in hospital settings. It's inevitable for you to display these thoughts and experiences in your answers, especially given that you're crunched for time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troplondon14 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 My supervisor is a McMaster Alumnus and did his Neurology Residence at UofT. He is on the admission committee for both McMaster and UofT. He was actually one of the leaders in creating CASPer. He told me that the whole point behind CASPer is to find good people, simple as that. Schools try to avoid those who have had everything spoon fed to them and find students who crawled and fought their way up with real sincere experiences. You do well on CASPer because you have had enough life experiences to deal with. You build your life and clinical accumen while you're outside, in class, with family, and in hospital settings. It's inevitable for you to display these thoughts and experiences in your answers, especially given that you're crunched for time. How can you determine whether someone is a good person and if they have real sincere experiences in one hour and based on random questions!? I know several people who were spoon fed all their life (never had a real job in their life) and are NOT the nicest people with real experiences but bullsh*t their capser responses and are in McMaster medical school today. Of course, life is not always fair and every admission process does have their flaws . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojjanhorse Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 How can you determine whether someone is a good person and if they have real sincere experiences in one hour and based on random questions!? I know several people who were spoon fed all their life (never had a real job in their life) and are NOT the nicest people with real experiences but bullsh*t their capser responses and are in McMaster medical school today. Of course, life is not always fair and every admission process does have their flaws . take a chill pill hombre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savac Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 How can you determine whether someone is a good person and if they have real sincere experiences in one hour and based on random questions!? I know several people who were spoon fed all their life (never had a real job in their life) and are NOT the nicest people with real experiences but bullsh*t their capser responses and are in McMaster medical school today. Of course, life is not always fair and every admission process does have their flaws . Well, they would also need to make it past the MMI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryastark Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 How can you determine whether someone is a good person and if they have real sincere experiences in one hour and based on random questions!? I know several people who were spoon fed all their life (never had a real job in their life) and are NOT the nicest people with real experiences but bullsh*t their capser responses and are in McMaster medical school today. Of course, life is not always fair and every admission process does have their flaws . Its very difficult to BS casper. You have 5 minutes to consider 3 questions, and most people can barely gather their own thoughts and type them coherently in that timeframe. I think it would be unlikely, although not impossible, for someone to come up with a BS answer that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphish Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 I'm quite curious to see how I did on the CASPer for a few reasons, most importantly to see if I get in , but second if I did poorly it is strong evidence that the CASPer is not a reflection of the MMI capability. The only reason I say this is because I've had MMI experience which I did quite well on, and if I don't get an interview, based on my other stats I can safely assume my CASPer was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokaroo Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 I did enjoy CASPER in general - it was quite the experience to say the least. Regardless of the outcome, I still have faith in the standardized form of it as they did invest 7+ years into it before actually employing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpuppy Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 I'm quite curious to see how I did on the CASPer for a few reasons, most importantly to see if I get in , but second if I did poorly it is strong evidence that the CASPer is not a reflection of the MMI capability. The only reason I say this is because I've had MMI experience which I did quite well on, and if I don't get an interview, based on my other stats I can safely assume my CASPer was terrible. no offence, but you can never safely assume anything in this process. and just because you did well on MMI elsewhere doesn't mean it's the same at Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphish Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 no offence, but you can never safely assume anything in this process. and just because you did well on MMI elsewhere doesn't mean it's the same at Mac. Both points very true i should rephrase that i likely did poorly casper if there is no interview and that i have potential for a good score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAMFtastic Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 How can you determine whether someone is a good person and if they have real sincere experiences in one hour and based on random questions!? I know several people who were spoon fed all their life (never had a real job in their life) and are NOT the nicest people with real experiences but bullsh*t their capser responses and are in McMaster medical school today. Of course, life is not always fair and every admission process does have their flaws . I think they are trying to evaluate your gut responses. If you know what the 'right answers' are, then you understand the ethical view-point you should adhere to as a physician (Or at least in their opinion) Now, the second half of your statement is insulting: 1. Nobody is spoon fed through undergrad - those students had to work hard enough to acquire the knowledge to get into school. If they worked less than you, and did better, well that's not their fault. Nobody else wrote their test for them! 2. Not everyone is going to be the 'nicest' person to everyone else. I am sure there are people who dislike - maybe they dislike you! I am just speculating. The fact of the matter is: How they engage their peers on a personal level should have no bearing on how they conduct themselves in a professional setting. Additionally, people skills are not required for all specialties. It is unfair to point the finger and belittle others so quickly. Having said that - this is not a hate on you, Merry Christmas (Happy Holidays) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w_robin Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I think they are trying to evaluate your gut responses. If you know what the 'right answers' are, then you understand the ethical view-point you should adhere to as a physician (Or at least in their opinion) Now, the second half of your statement is insulting: 1. Nobody is spoon fed through undergrad - those students had to work hard enough to acquire the knowledge to get into school. If they worked less than you, and did better, well that's not their fault. Nobody else wrote their test for them! 2. Not everyone is going to be the 'nicest' person to everyone else. I am sure there are people who dislike - maybe they dislike you! I am just speculating. The fact of the matter is: How they engage their peers on a personal level should have no bearing on how they conduct themselves in a professional setting. Additionally, people skills are not required for all specialties. It is unfair to point the finger and belittle others so quickly. Having said that - this is not a hate on you, Merry Christmas (Happy Holidays) Of the bolded items... Line 1: true Line 2: true Line 3: not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdcc Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Anyone know when the letters for interviews go out? I thought it was supposed to be anytime now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rext Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 The rumour floating around is that invites will be out asap; within ~2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvantes Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 within two weeks!!! awesome... super excited to start hearing back, until I hear bad news I am happy:) That is the week when a lot of the invites go out I believe, possibly an overwhelming week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tberry3 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Are the invites sent out by email or traditional mail? Want to make sure I'm checking the right mailbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinre Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 both. 10char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojjanhorse Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 within two weeks!!! awesome... super excited to start hearing back, until I hear bad news I am happy:) That is the week when a lot of the invites go out I believe, possibly an overwhelming week. Not within two weeks... Early February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Not within two weeks... Early February yeah that would be more consistent - never a good idea to have early expectations - you spend all day clicking on your inbox instead of actually making sure this year is going well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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