palipride Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Hi guys, I plan to apply in SABA in January for September admission. My GPA after 3 years is 3.53 and I write the MCAT in a couple of days. I've got lots of EC's under my belt so I will be gambling and applying to Canada. Should I do a 5th year to boost my GPA? or should I apply to SABA, as I do not really care if I place a residency in the states or Canada. :confused: Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorzo Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 It's pretty risky to go to a school like SABA, even if you'd be happy doing residency in the USA. What is your yearly GPA breakdown? Some schools take your last couple years or allow you to drop a year, which could make a fifth year even more beneficial. If all your years are consistently around 3.5, consider applying for a DO in America. You'd still be able to apply for Canadian or American residency spots, but you won't be an IMG so your chances would be much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 With a 3.5 I agree, DO is probably a better bet. Saba is a great school with a good track record, but the school isn't the issue, it would just be because of your status as an IMG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palipride Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 With a 3.5 I agree, DO is probably a better bet. Saba is a great school with a good track record, but the school isn't the issue, it would just be because of your status as an IMG. Sorry but what is DO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorzo Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Doctor of Osteopathy. Different degree, can apply to the same residencies, which is what actually matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slashsev Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 ahahhahhah, i love how people would spend 500K and piss there future away with 0 research!! i would like to open up my own medical school one day in usa DO= MD IMGs are gettin booted out like no tomorrow, i think the IMG window has passed, anyone going into IMG NOW will have an impossible time finding a job (considering we add 4+ years to this date) already seen doubling of the DO campuses and MDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palipride Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 You guys are making it seem impossible to land a residency from an 'outside' school. Isnt it based on USMLE1 scores and your grades while studying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorzo Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 https://www.carms.ca/pdfs/2013R1_MatchResults/Table_1_En.pdf Compare the odds between CMG and IMG. It's not that it's impossible but that it's unlikely. Following that, there's no way I would personally go more than 200k in debt with less than a 50% chance of actually getting a job. Check SDN for an American perspective but I really don't see why you'd take SABA over a DO school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palipride Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 https://www.carms.ca/pdfs/2013R1_MatchResults/Table_1_En.pdf Compare the odds between CMG and IMG. It's not that it's impossible but that it's unlikely. Following that, there's no way I would personally go more than 200k in debt with less than a 50% chance of actually getting a job. Check SDN for an American perspective but I really don't see why you'd take SABA over a DO school. This is considering all of IMG though. A couple of my cousins friends just scored well over the mean us average for the usmle step 1 while finishing from MUA. So these schools do get you prepared for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slashsev Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 yes 1 person they also force them to write the Caribbean version, if u fail ur out, and further taking more time away dont forget to add +4 yrs to any of these informations, considering u get in now IMG is last resort and no its NOT only USMLE the island kids MUST DESTROY the usmle to get primary care/any spot...your IMG AND Canadian you run into visa problems which DOs can bypass bc of school sponsorship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviathan Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Doesnt matter what your USMLE score is, when theres an american grad with a 200 on step 1 they'll take that person over you with a 260 any day. You're also kidding yourself if you think a caribbean school like MUA will let you score better than if you went to a US school. The US school average is ~220 for step 1, probably higher now. You could do better but you could also do worse. Saba makes you write the comprehensive NBME exam and they post statistics for that online. The semester I wrote it the average score was equivalent to about 220. So right on the nose compared to the average US score. Of course, that doesn't account for about half of all students who were on academic probation and then were expelled before they ever made it to 5th semester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slashsev Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 ^ agree from what ive been hearing, the IMG students are getting even more tougher on step1 ....you going to need monster numbers on a side you, they can give you more time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qszwdxefc Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's pretty risky to go to a school like SABA, even if you'd be happy doing residency in the USA. What is your yearly GPA breakdown? Some schools take your last couple years or allow you to drop a year, which could make a fifth year even more beneficial. If all your years are consistently around 3.5, consider applying for a DO in America. You'd still be able to apply for Canadian or American residency spots, but you won't be an IMG so your chances would be much higher. Osteopathy is not considered CMG fyi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorzo Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Osteopathy is not considered CMG fyi... https://www.carms.ca/en/r-1-main-residency#r1-eligibility-criteria A school of Osteopathic medicine is listed as fulfilling the requirements to apply in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidhya Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 https://www.carms.ca/en/r-1-main-residency#r1-eligibility-criteria A school of Osteopathic medicine is listed as fulfilling the requirements to apply in the first round This is correct, although you do need to read up on provincial differences. B.C. appears to have no restrictions at all in first round, while other provinces may require a screening, followed by a few who don't accept them all at (mostly maritimes). That still leaves open many first round residency spots across the country. I would always go DO over IMG. Even if you don't agree with the osteopathic manipulation part of the curriculum. In the end you don't have to practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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