aaronjw Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Like what program? Almost all schools have a cut off of around 80-85.. The same people applying to uToronto, uOttawa, Carleton, UWO &c..all same average. 80+ Not much of an issue in Canada but is in the US schools, especially the biggies like Yale, Harvard, Standard, Princeton et al. It's one way to ensure boost alumni funding through generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orcamute Posted October 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Well yes, perhaps America. But that is what America is all about. A ranking system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Because they can't get in. Legacy admissions And it isn't cost effective - pay 100s to go to a school that ultimately doesn't produce that high of An income difference. Often the math doesn't make sense from that angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orcamute Posted October 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Would you say that there is an income difference? A lot of students that I know who went to Queens..seem to think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medigeek Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Like what program? Almost all schools have a cut off of around 80-85.. The same people applying to uToronto, uOttawa, Carleton, UWO &c..all same average. 80+ The level of "prestige" in undergrad programs in Canada is laughable compared to the likes of Harvard and Yale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 The level of "prestige" in undergrad programs in Canada is laughable compared to the likes of Harvard and Yale. Ha - nor do we have the truly bad schools they often also have. I mean bad - just awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's all about the program, the courses, the profs and the academic reputation and job opportunities flowing as a result, e.g., engineering at Waterloo to name one example. Prestige, at least as I see it, is irrelevant, for sure at the undergraduate level. Where name does help and have impact is if you want to be a Wall Street lawyer; then, there are 2 or 3 law schools only in Canada where these firms interview. It does not matter if you are brilliant and go to U/O law school, you won't be interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's all about the program, the courses, the profs and the academic reputation and job opportunities flowing as a result, e.g., engineering at Waterloo to name one example. Prestige, at least as I see it, is irrelevant, for sure at the undergraduate level. Where name does help and have impact is if you want to be a Wall Street lawyer; then, there are 2 or 3 law schools only in Canada where these firms interview. It does not matter if you are brilliant and go to U/O law school, you won't be interviewed. But that is miss leading - if you are brilliant you leave u/o and become a kick ass as a lawyer. You make a name for yourself and then get offers on Wall Street. This is not a single entry system. Some of the studies on this in the US are really interesting. People who get high sat scores seem to do basically the same if they go Ivey vs a pretty good school but not in that league. One has a less rep but higher cost the other is cheaper but somewhat less. In the end there may not be that great of the difference - the point was that is wasn't the school that made people great it was the person. Of course that isn't exactly the message the Ivey schools want to spread around - it is just another form of marketing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medigeek Posted October 22, 2013 Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Ha - nor do we have the truly bad schools they often also have. I mean bad - just awful yea that is true.. some sketchy and crappy schools down there definitely. Our standard public system means undergrad education is close to the same in every uni (relatively on average). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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