jmee Posted December 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Visceral, what did you use for studying? These are pretty awesome scores. I have no doubt that you for sure will get accepted everywhere. Just got my letter which was sent to the region of Peel: Reading Comprehension: 24 Biology: 27 Chemistry: 23 Perception: 22 Carving: 14 That carving scores really makes me wonder about my manual dexterity hah I got a couple chips on my soap so that probably did it for me. All I can say is thank God UofT and UWO are disregarding carving this year. On a side note, I found an interesting publication about why UWO may have decided to remove perception and carving from their admission criteria. The article was actually written by a UWO professor: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14650501&dopt=Abstract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visceral Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Hey Jmee, I used a bunch of different resources for independent study. I studied from the start of August until late October. The resources I used for each section: Chemistry - Kaplan's 2007 Edition of the DAT book was surprisingly good for this section and I feel that it presents all the information you need in a concise and organized manner. I used my freshman year general chemistry text for some additional problems and as a reference but it wasn't too necessary. Biology - Kaplan's 2007 book isn't very good for this section because it does not go into enough detail. It does, however, present a nice overview of all the material you need to know. The best purchase I made was Schaum's Outline of Biology, which has all of the Kaplan info with the exact amount of depth you would need to do well. However, it goes into too much detail on taxonomy and plants so I didn't learn every detail in those sections. This book also only cost like $25, so it is the best bang for your buck of all the resources in my opinion. Campbell's Biology 7ed was a reference text that helped me out with some random stuff. However, it goes into way too much detail, but the study questions are great. If you have lots of time then definitely use this book, however I only did like one read through since I didn't have too much time. Reading Comprehension - I used Kaplan's 2007 for practice. All I can say about this section is I had to find a strategy that worked for me. I started off reading it slowly first time through but then changed by strategy to using a cursory read through. Perception - I used Kaplan's 2007 once again. I found the difficulty about the same compared to the real thing, except for the angles. Those angles are so small on the real thing and I no doubt made a majority of my mistakes there. I also purchased Barron's to help for perception and it helped a little but the book is riddled with errors on every section, not only perception. So proceed with caution. It only cost $20, but I felt bad for even paying that much. Carving - 20 soaps later and I am little better than when I began ahhaha I don't know, I didn't think I did well, but thought I broke 15. I used the IQ publications book which definitely helped, because the DAT guide is far too simplistic. I guess without the IQ book I would have gotten < 10 haha I was also fortunate enough to get a pack of Kaplan exams from people who took the course before, so I used those to prepare myself. I found all of the sections to be comparable in difficulty, especially reading comprehension. In the last week, I purchased TopScore which had 3 full Canadian DAT practice exams. My perception score and chemistry scores from this resource were bang on with what I really got. However, I did better on the real biology component because TopScore asks obscure taxonomy questions. I didn't bother with the reading comprehension because it had to be done on the PC, and I was accustomed to working on paper and making notes. Ulitmately, I think Kaplan's 2007 DAT book, Schaum's Biology and Kaplan/TopScore practice exams are what helped me most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celeron_266 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 anyone in BC got their score yet? i havent got it....UBC hasnt got it either..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBCfnh Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I'm from BC, no scores for me yet. Hopefully soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewb83 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 RC 22 Biology 18 Chemistry 21 Perception 20 Carving 26 best 2 yr avg: 89.4% or 3.91 ...and western won't count carving, guess i'll pray for an interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGupta Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Great scores people, it looks like this year is going to be pretty competitive. Do you think the accepted average of DAT scores will increase this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenboy6 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 It may as there are more applicants this year because of the double cohort. But then again, we are looking at scores from students on a dental school message board which means that the people are most likely serious about getting in so one would expect high scores. Also, people who got relatively lower scores may not want to post their scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecture3waves Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Oddly enough, I got my scores delivered on Sunday. Did great on everything except carving... 11. I'm actually surprised I even got this high as I accidentally started carving a fluted end as a notched end chewb83, I think you stand a good chance at an interview.. your RC is high (so you should make the cutoff easy) and your AA seems average. Not to mention, your gpa looks good so that should help too. Visceral, congrats on making the top 5 AA scores in Canada, good job! Also.. did anyone notice how the French distributions are around 4 points lower in each section as compared to the English distributions? Looks like competition is a lot less stiff for Francophones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babytooth Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 celeron, i'm from BC and i received my scores today. rc 19 bio 21 chem 19 pat 22 carving 20 pretty avg i guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxman Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Babytooth, You're definitely above average - be happy with those scores cause they are definitely good. Look at the percentile score sheet - that'll tell you what's average and I can say that you are certainly above those averages in each section. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babytooth Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 thanks laxman! I guess i was just comparing them to all the excellent scores posted in this thread. It is obvious everybody did well here. yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywish82 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Just looking at some of those scores makes me think I should re-write haha I thought I had done well last year. RC 20 AA 22 Bio 22 Chem 23 Sci 22 Per 18 Carv 16 And the worst thing is I'm OOP for UWO and UofT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicktheDentist Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Wow, some people have recieved some really nice scores!! I wrote the DAT in February 2006 (I feel left out of the excitement) . RC 22 AA 24 Bio 26 Chem 23 PA 19 Carv 14 GPA 90.4% (best two years for Western) 3.82 (lowest year dropped for U of T) I am trying to stay optimistic, however, some of these great scores are making me a little nervous! I wish I had the high carving scores of others. I know both schools say they don't look at the carving score, but if things are really competitive I am sure it will factor in some how. I thing it's really going to come down to the interview! Best of luck everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywish82 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Nice scores Rick. As someone who didn't get in last year I can tell you the interview is the make or break point, it broke me. Work hard on it and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBJ1 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Wow, some people have recieved some really nice scores!! I wrote the DAT in February 2006 (I feel left out of the excitement) . RC 22 AA 24 Bio 26 Chem 23 PA 19 Carv 14 GPA 90.4% (best two years for Western) 3.82 (lowest year dropped for U of T) I am trying to stay optimistic, however, some of these great scores are making me a little nervous! I wish I had the high carving scores of others. I know both schools say they don't look at the carving score, but if things are really competitive I am sure it will factor in some how. I thing it's really going to come down to the interview! Best of luck everyone... I don't think you have anything to worry about if your applying to UofT and Western. With an RC of 22, you'll pass any cutoff that Western sets and an AA of 24 is awesome. I am sure that if they say that carving won't play a factor, then they mean it because they have nothing to gain from otherwise misleading us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxman Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 People, The scores posted in this thread must be among the highest scores in the country. Sure everybody has a score or 2 that they would've liked to do higher in but overall - look at how you did. These scores are absolutely insane! If you have marks for the most part in the 20's and a gpa/average > 85 you are laughing. YOU ARE GOING TO GET INTERVIEWS! You will have a great shot at matriculating - assuming a decent interview. Everyone that has posted here be happy with how you did because you really did do very well. Think of the hundreds of people that wrote this test and did not score well at all. Don't look at the negatives, look at all the positives and give yourselves a pat on the back for a job well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT_DENTS_Class of 2010 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Just looking at some of those scores makes me think I should re-write haha I thought I had done well last year. RC 20 AA 22 Bio 22 Chem 23 Sci 22 Per 18 Carv 16 And the worst thing is I'm OOP for UWO and UofT As far as things go...your scores don't mean a thing to UofT, after about 17 ...or 18'ish all depends on your GPA. And for Carving, they don't care if you are a 5 or 30, SERIOUSLY! And at western those are enough. There is no reason for some 1 like you to rewrite again, unless your only applying west. Good luck, your scores are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celeron_266 Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 just got mine RC 20 BIOL 20 CHEM 29 Science 22 AA 23 PAT 20 Carving 14 school cumulative average 85.9 (A) science 87.2 (A) a bit disappointed with my carving.....hope i can get an interview (UBC)..... what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxman Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Hey UofT2010, Does UofT have any sort of magical formula that they use to determine who gets in etc? uwo is 60% marks, 25% interview, 15% DAT - does UofT have anything like this that you know of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visceral Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 From my understanding UofT is 60% GPA, 5% AA, 5% PAT, and 30% interview. So it's certainly easy to see how a lower mark in one section has little effect. For example, a 17 in RC might make it hard to get an interview at UWO, but at UofT it's not even 2% of the application process, if you go by raw divison although AA calculation is a bit different. This really explains the large ranges in AA (16 - 25) and PAT (14-25) for 2006 accepted students. The difference between an AA of 20 and 23 is really minimal. Gives you a chance you stutter once during your interview maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT_DENTS_Class of 2010 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Yes they do, It may swing either way for those who do well on DAT and for those who don't... GPA 60%, Interview 30% and DAT 10% (but not split into the 5% PAT or AA, its just all 10%)...which is kinda what the last poster has said , so right on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecture3waves Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Does anyone know how the gpa is weighted? Is it just a simple conversion like (gpa/4)*60? If so, that would mean that the difference between say a 3.9 and a 3.95 is only 3 points.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBCfnh Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Just got mine RC 20 Bio 18 Chem 17 Perception 19 Carving 29 Pretty excited about the carving! Didn't think it was going to be my strongest section. Hopefully overall they will be okay for UBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celeron_266 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Just got mine RC 20 Bio 18 Chem 17 Perception 19 Carving 29 Pretty excited about the carving! Didn't think it was going to be my strongest section. Hopefully overall they will be okay for UBC. nice carving score!!!! has your mark arrived the UBC dent office yet?...cuz mine hasnt although i have my mark already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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