moo Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 FYI http://www.shanghairanking.com/FieldMED2011.html MIT and Berkeley do not have med schools... but probably this is based on pharmacy schools too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronjw Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Very interesting. Thanks for posting, moo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepontrying Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 wow where the hell is ubc lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm88 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Yay! UofM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoss Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm surprised that say, university of queensland was put on par with u chicago and higher than case western Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBCStudent128 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 The ranking criteria on this is ridiculous. Why do I care if an alumni received a Nobel prize? Where is the criteria on facility, programs, fund ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOC_Ma Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Mcmaster made it into the top 3 canadian schools? I lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Hood Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 UdeM is not even here, and me who though that they were gods in everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 The ranking criteria on this is ridiculous.Why do I care if an alumni received a Nobel prize? Where is the criteria on facility, programs, fund ? Actually that should be a criterion on which to rank schools. Canadian schools really can't compete because they have no money when you compare to big name schools in the US. Hence, they can't attract big talent. UBC's endowment is a paltry 1.09 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonekid Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 It was nice to see Manitoba in the top 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBCStudent128 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Actually that should be a criterion on which to rank schools. Canadian schools really can't compete because they have no money when you compare to big name schools in the US. Hence, they can't attract big talent. UBC's endowment is a paltry 1.09 billion. Most graduates don't win a nobel prize. Not to mention those who do are likely to be the 'special' ones that does not represent most of the graduating students in the program. So how does one special person determine how good the university is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Most graduates don't win a nobel prize. Not to mention those who do are likely to be the 'special' ones that does not represent most of the graduating students in the program. So how does one special person determine how good the university is? You're right. One person doesn't. But when you have an institution that has a history of producing 10, 20, even 30 Nobel laureates, that says something. UBC has had one Nobel laureate. UC-Berkeley has had 22 (living and deceased) former faculty and 28 former students win Nobel prizes. Small numbers? Sure, but this is a way to separate the best from the very best. And trust me, UBC is hardly among the very best in the world, despite what you're spoonfed from day 1. I've had many friends who have graduated with me from math and physics go to big-name US schools for their PhD who say they were never challenged like they were at UBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooksbane Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 You're right. One person doesn't. But when you have an institution that has a history of producing 10, 20, even 30 Nobel laureates, that says something. UBC has had one Nobel laureate. UC-Berkeley has had 22 (living and deceased) former faculty and 28 former students win Nobel prizes. Small numbers? Sure, but this is a way to separate the best from the very best. And trust me, UBC is hardly among the very best in the world, despite what you're spoonfed from day 1. I've had many friends who have graduated with me from math and physics go to big-name US schools for their PhD who say they were never challenged like they were at UBC. But challenging != good. It seems that these mid-tier universities like UBC etc. tend to want to be super hard in order to justify their reputations as places of higher learning. That's all fine and good, but it doesn't really work. What works is how much money a school gets. That's really the only criterion. By going to UBC rather than going to a better option just to be challenged, you're making the same move as trying to work a janitor job for minimum wage rather than getting a good career just to be "challenged" - sure its harder, but its not as good. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBCStudent128 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 You're right. One person doesn't. But when you have an institution that has a history of producing 10, 20, even 30 Nobel laureates, that says something. UBC has had one Nobel laureate. UC-Berkeley has had 22 (living and deceased) former faculty and 28 former students win Nobel prizes. Small numbers? Sure, but this is a way to separate the best from the very best. And trust me, UBC is hardly among the very best in the world, despite what you're spoonfed from day 1. I've had many friends who have graduated with me from math and physics go to big-name US schools for their PhD who say they were never challenged like they were at UBC. I'm sorry when did I say that UBC was one of the best ? Or that it should be on the list? In fact I am not even in med school. I have also heard graduate students who went off to Harvard for PhD and said that they felt the difficulty was the same. Also just to note that those numbers are way off for the Nobel prize laureates... And how do you think those US schools produce so many Nobel laureates? Maybe because as you mentioned, more funding, more research, more opportunities and the schools have been established for a long period of time. I am talking about medical schools. I am sure that most graduates do not go into researching in fact most med students that I know don't look at how many Nobel laureates the school has created when looking to enter, because they have no interest in researching. They might look at more like umm idk facility, residencies, matching rate , etc? EDIT: Academic rankings... nevermind my posts, didn't see that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremedGuy1 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 I find this list and their methodology hilarious. Just as an example, check out number 14 and 15 on the list. While Minnesota is a great school, I doubt many would choose it over Mayo... and University of Arizona outranking Case Western, University of Virginia, and NYU?? Try telling that to the posters on SDN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 The criteria used have almost nothing to do with the quality of the education. Chose any school you want in this country and you will be fine. It's all up to you to learn the material and maintain a healthy lifestyle. I would still chose Ottawa because it has everything I want. Way too many things to ennumerate, but I almost feel like it was built for me. UBC on the other hand was not, but it sure seemed to be a better fit for my younger fellow students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Agree completely, how good a school is is really dependent on what you want out of school, and if you enjoy seeing hot girls (of which there are exponentially more than provinces which will go unnamed) run in spandex in december then ubc's a great school (excuse the flagrant misogyny, lol). The criteria used have almost nothing to do with the quality of the education. Way too many things to ennumerate, but I almost feel like it was built for me. UBC on the other hand was not, but it sure seemed to be a better fit for my younger fellow students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 lol at this pissing contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPlayGamesNude Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 wow where the hell is ubc lol lol Be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Agree completely, how good a school is is really dependent on what you want out of school, and if you enjoy seeing hot girls (of which there are exponentially more than provinces which will go unnamed) run in spandex in december then ubc's a great school (excuse the flagrant misogyny, lol). UBC has an unbelievably high concentration of pretty young women, but for a family man, they are a forbidden fruit. I must emphasise again, though - unbelievable! Great for young, unattached men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Not just UBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 mcgill's great too, but the women tend to be way more clothed in winter, lol Not just UBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer08 Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Mcmaster made it into the top 3 canadian schools? I lol'd and manitoba in the top 5 ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Not just UBC. I can only speak from experience. In addition, I must declare I have a thing for asian women. They look like delicate flowers but are tough as nails. I find them prettier, very charming and feminine. That's why, for me, UBC has the highest concentration of hot women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future_doc Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 mcgill's great too, but the women tend to be way more clothed in winter, lol Only outdoors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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