KMMD Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 In a way I agree, but that is just not practical. They use the essay as a surrogate for qualities they would evaluate in the interview - I guess that is the best we have right now and unfortunately it may be unfair to some (just the way it is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1428 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 So only 1600 of 3000 have a gpa of 3.60 and/or mcat of 9 9 9 N? That surprises me (I guess if you applied without your mcat scores released yet). Not necessarily- I guess it would be a mix of uncompetitive applicants with respect to MCAT/GPA, or not competitive due to 3rd year status (which would require crazy stats to even be considered), or some component the application is lacking in(?)... The 1600/3000 suggests they do a cursory read-through of a file before considering it for full file review, which would explain the large amount of files that weren't read completely. Or they may have some other system of choosing files they want to review fully. It's a freaking mythology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Not necessarily- I guess it would be a mix of uncompetitive applicants with respect to MCAT/GPA, or not competitive due to 3rd year status (which would require crazy stats to even be considered), or some component the application is lacking in(?)... The 1600/3000 suggests they do a cursory read-through of a file before considering it for full file review, which would explain the large amount of files that weren't read completely. Or they may have some other system of choosing files they want to review fully. It's a freaking mythology. I forgot about the third year applicants. My theory is that the adcom members kill a chicken and cut it open (if you make the cutoffs). The entrails lead them to review some files and discard others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanarkiii Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Any news on interviews anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holiday1001 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Not necessarily- I guess it would be a mix of uncompetitive applicants with respect to MCAT/GPA, or not competitive due to 3rd year status (which would require crazy stats to even be considered), or some component the application is lacking in(?)... The 1600/3000 suggests they do a cursory read-through of a file before considering it for full file review, which would explain the large amount of files that weren't read completely. Or they may have some other system of choosing files they want to review fully. It's a freaking mythology. there are 10 interview days for ~3000 applicants. the first weekend represents, therefore, 1/5 of the total pool. So it makes sense that around 600 people rejected, which seems to imply that they just read the files as they get to them. from the blog: Hi Ali. We are still screening and reviewing and many files have not yet been touched Q: Is there a particular order in which the files are screened? A: With 3000 files you just take them as they come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceroll2011 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 There remains one questioned to be answered. How can they reject 600 applicants when they haven't even looked at the rest of the files? How do they know that there aren't 2400 poor applications to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawamed.90 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 There remains one questioned to be answered.How can they reject 600 applicants when they haven't even looked at the rest of the files? How do they know that there aren't 2400 poor applications to come? If they've gone through 600 files that don't meet the cutoffs then they'd auto-reject them. Or if there was some other obvious problem I'd guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 There remains one questioned to be answered.How can they reject 600 applicants when they haven't even looked at the rest of the files? How do they know that there aren't 2400 poor applications to come? Stats. 10char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I wonder if there is an unofficial non-academic cutoff as well. I guess they might also assume that a random sampling of ~600 is going to be representative of the total applicant population. Therefore, you choose top 50 then move on to the next batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 There remains one questioned to be answered.How can they reject 600 applicants when they haven't even looked at the rest of the files? How do they know that there aren't 2400 poor applications to come? They've been doing it for years so they probably expect enough good applications in the remaining 2400 ish. Also, Deborah said that the 600 Rs were a mix of not meeting cut offs as well as uncompetitive applications so I'm inclined to think (just being hypothetical here) that many of the 600 Rs are auto rejections that fail to meet cut offs. I think they scan applications before sending them to file review, hence the mass below cut off rejects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcoast11 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I forgot about the third year applicants. My theory is that the adcom members kill a chicken and cut it open (if you make the cutoffs). The entrails lead them to review some files and discard others. HAHAHAHA! thanks for the humour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holiday1001 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Are you certain third years are treated differently, ie read first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki dale Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Are you certain third years are treated differently, ie read first? nobody is read 'first' D: but I think third years are given more stringent expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holiday1001 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I'm 3rd year and haven't heard back yet... that's why I think they haven't looked at my file yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaedsDoc Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Are you certain third years are treated differently, ie read first? Hey holiday, I really don't think there is any order whatsoever in regards to file review. First time I've applied was in 3rd year and got rejected Feb 19. Second time I've applied was in 4th year and got rejected in the first batch. This year... still waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhgel Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 If they've gone through 600 files that don't meet the cutoffs then they'd auto-reject them. Or if there was some other obvious problem I'd guess. but many of those exceed the cut-offs! (re: the other thread for the 2011/2012 application cycle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holiday1001 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hey holiday, I really don't think there is any order whatsoever in regards to file review. First time I've applied was in 3rd year and got rejected Feb 19. Second time I've applied was in 4th year and got rejected in the first batch. This year... still waiting. yah, that further convinces me that they just make their way through the pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaedsDoc Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 but many of those exceed the cut-offs! (re: the other thread for the 2011/2012 application cycle). Yup, the first batch has 2 kinds of applicants: those not meeting cutoffs, and those that they managed to look at already. Who knew that I was more competitive in third year? Weird.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki dale Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I don't think it is wise to spend so much energy trying to figure out the technicalities of the admissions process. All we can do is wait to hear if we have been invited for an interview or not. Until then, we will have to do something more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lekarza Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I don't think it is wise to spend so much energy trying to figure out the technicalities of the admissions process. All we can do is wait to hear if we have been invited for an interview or not. Until then, we will have to do something more productive. +1 10 char Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I don't think it is wise to spend so much energy trying to figure out the technicalities of the admissions process. All we can do is wait to hear if we have been invited for an interview or not. Until then, we will have to do something more productive. Personally, I don't really care, since I likely will not receive an interview with my stats. Also, it is the "interview discussion" thread. I'm just having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI_hopeful Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 InviteGPA: Weighted - ~3.8 MCAT (PS/VR/BS/W) - 9/10/9/Q Year of applicant and UG/Grad ? - Graduated with Masters (graduated a few months ago) ECs: 2 papers published, 3 in submission, 2 in preparation, invented a scientific piece of equipment with a paper on it/website, multiple international science talks including 2 podium presentations, multiple volunteering overseas i.e. building orphanages/houses, varsity team placing first is OUAs, head of multiple clubs, 1 year of volunteering in hospital in radiology, multiple clinical placements in hospitals with spinal cord patients, etc. etc. [very strong ECs in my opinion] Interview date: March Is that an MD/PhD interview, or just MD? I'm wondering if they'll give out one if you apply to the other....thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost__in__space Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Is that an MD/PhD interview, or just MD? I'm wondering if they'll give out one if you apply to the other....thanks! I put the answer already in my edit....... it is an MD/PhD interview. If you are not found suitable for an MD/PhD interview they may put you in the MD pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filter105 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 you are like a ...machine... a grad student God... How is it possible to have 7 papers? (Msc right?) My situation is I did 2 years of master, wrote a thesis in Intro +paper + Discussion format and I'm not sure when it will get published. Supervisor was optimistic about coming out in paper, but not in hurry... so I doubt it will get published this year or next....possibly 5 years later I think at the rate. I so envy you right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yugerry Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 ^^^^7 papers!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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