Jernau Morat Gurgeh Posted July 30, 2018 Report Share Posted July 30, 2018 The U of M website just announced that they are implementing the CASPer for this years admission. I'm curious as to what people think about this, and whether anyone knows any more information - e.g. how much it will be worth. I for one am really upset with this, as it adds an element of randomness and uncertainty to an admissions process that was previously transparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jernau Morat Gurgeh Posted July 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Yeah, I'm really regretting not applying here last year. Its also really anxiety inducing that they haven't released how they will break it down. I'm hoping it isn't worth a lot and is only worth a bit pre-interview, but we wont know until they release the admissions guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazam Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 According to what I've read, the proposed change was that selection for interview will be: 20% AGPA, 50% MCAT, 30% CASPer. For selection of interviewed applicants it will be: 15% AGPA, 40% MCAT, 35% MMI, 15% CASPer https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M38rYNWiSbtFISsDVn25ybd8OJonz2dWRA9Srw7cW_U/edit This is according to the senate report from U of M's Science Student's Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernau Morat Gurgeh Posted July 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 Thanks so much for linking that. That's honestly not as bad as I was expecting, post interview seems to be essentially untouched with only 10% CASPer, the added difficulty will be in the initial culling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantRamen Posted July 31, 2018 Report Share Posted July 31, 2018 23 hours ago, shazam said: It's stupid and pointless (other than stealing from our pockets and giving a new stream of revenue for the univer$ity) From what I've read we don't even get our scores released to us ( I might be wrong) which is ridiculous considering it's worth a good chunk of our application. Not to mention how they haven't even formally announced it, yet they're making it a requirement for the upcoming intake. Why not announce it now and wait for next year's intake so people are actually prepared for the test + have the ability to schedule a date & time for the casper test When I wrote CaSPER, I wrote it in the fall, so you still have quite a bit of time to practice and prep. And technically, since the announced it now, it is still fair for Manitoban applicants, as all the applicants found out at the same time. There will be a similar amount of preparation across most applicants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernau Morat Gurgeh Posted August 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 hours ago, InstantRamen said: When I wrote CaSPER, I wrote it in the fall, so you still have quite a bit of time to practice and prep. And technically, since the announced it now, it is still fair for Manitoban applicants, as all the applicants found out at the same time. There will be a similar amount of preparation across most applicants. Did you find preparation was helpful? I winged it last year but I'm not sure how I did, though it apparently it wasn't well enough to get an interview at Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantRamen Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Llamastan said: Did you find preparation was helpful? I winged it last year but I'm not sure how I did, though it apparently it wasn't well enough to get an interview at Mac. Hi there! I prepped a fair amount. I took practise tests for a week. Mind you, I prepped for the MMI a lot in the previous year that I didn't get accepted, so the thoughts flowed quickly. I was focusing on the typing aspect of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjaz Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Personally I was very upset about the casper addition at first, but now that I have to take it (Manitoba is my number 1 choice at the moment) I'm also going to apply to a bunch of other schools in Ontario that require the test, along with those I am already applying to, which increases my options and improves my chances of getting in this year. Also the Casper takes out of the MMI worth which is a win for me since that's what hurt me the most in my application last year. I think overall it's a good thing..............unless I completely bomb it Also when do you guys think the U of M will upload their application bulletin. Going off of last year the application portal should be opening up in about 10 days, but they have yet to update the bulletin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMmmMed Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 On 7/30/2018 at 6:05 PM, shazam said: It's stupid and pointless (other than stealing from our pockets and giving a new stream of revenue for the univer$ity) From what I've read we don't even get our scores released to us ( I might be wrong) which is ridiculous considering it's worth a good chunk of our application. Not to mention how they haven't even formally announced it, yet they're making it a requirement for the upcoming intake. Why not announce it now and wait for next year's intake so people are actually prepared for the test + have the ability to schedule a date & time for the casper test That's irrelevant - the University doesn't get money from this - just like how they don't get money for people writing the MCAT. The new bulletin is up now FYI everyone, and the application portal is supposed to open by the end of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada747 Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 9:18 PM, Llamastan said: Did you find preparation was helpful? I winged it last year but I'm not sure how I did, though it apparently it wasn't well enough to get an interview at Mac. DUDE PRACTICE! It's worth so much not to practice. Honestly, it's what got me into Mac, Alberta (OOP), waitlisted at Ottawa, and into McGill (OOP) with my low GPA. If you want to see how important it is for Mac, there's a calculator here. It would be similar-ish to Manitoba's calculation (Mac does 33% CARS, 33% GPA, 33% CASPer). Either way you'll realize how important it is to practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjaz Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 @UMmmMed oh thanks for letting us know I want to get all my applications in order and have been waiting on the U of M for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jernau Morat Gurgeh Posted August 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 hour ago, canada747 said: DUDE PRACTICE! It's worth so much not to practice. Honestly, it's what got me into Mac, Alberta (OOP), waitlisted at Ottawa, and into McGill (OOP) with my low GPA. If you want to see how important it is for Mac, there's a calculator here. It would be similar-ish to Manitoba's calculation (Mac does 33% CARS, 33% GPA, 33% CASPer). Either way you'll realize how important it is to practice. Thanks for the advice. I'm hoping the breakdown for U of manitoba helps mitigate the effect of the CASPer compared to Mac somewhat - for example, looking at 50% total MCAT scores rather than 33% CARS, and taking off worst courses for GPA. But yeah, 30% is still a good chunk pre-interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentist Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 2 hours ago, canada747 said: DUDE PRACTICE! It's worth so much not to practice. Honestly, it's what got me into Mac, Alberta (OOP), waitlisted at Ottawa, and into McGill (OOP) with my low GPA. If you want to see how important it is for Mac, there's a calculator here. It would be similar-ish to Manitoba's calculation (Mac does 33% CARS, 33% GPA, 33% CASPer). Either way you'll realize how important it is to practice. If you don't mind me asking, what is considered a low gpa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada747 Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 3.80 cGPA on OMSAS scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboydyo Posted August 15, 2018 Report Share Posted August 15, 2018 2 hours ago, canada747 said: 3.80 cGPA on OMSAS scale u got an IV at uOttawa with a 3.80 cgpa? For the English stream or French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada747 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, bigboydyo said: u got an IV at uOttawa with a 3.80 cgpa? For the English stream or French? It was 3.89 Ottawa wGPA! English stream. CASPer is key. People do not believe me when I say CASPer makes all the difference. Feel free to message me if you want my advice and preferred practice tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlayThompson Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 > Currently the AGPA is initially calculated from undergrad grades submitted by the application deadline; thereafter the AGPA is recalculated based on grades submitted after completion of courses between the time of application and completion of the academic year. However, the process of calculating the AGPA is work intensive and this causes delays in offers of admission while awaiting final grades. Now, the AGPA used in i) selection of applicants for interview and ii) selection of applicants for admission shall be calculated solely from grades identified in the official transcripts submitted by the app deadline. This is also a big amendment, means that acceptances are going to be much earlier, grades post-app aren't going to change your AGPA, and if you haven't done 120credits by Sept, no removal of lowest 30 credits (really big imo b/c people tend to calculate AGPA when entering 4th year w 30 credits dropped). Essentially you have to finish your degree before getting 30 credits dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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