white queens

[Cnussey]

Not to wade into the battlefield (you and future doc do have a historical feud going) but .... so your online persona is somehow different than your real persona? and you are saying future_doc is a phony?

 

Sorry I couldn't resist

 

I think that's as close to harsh as it comes with rmorelan.

 

I think sfinch is simply "free" with his opinions when he's online.

 

Good heavens, FD is not one of the ppl I would ever have thought was male.

[sfinch]

Not to wade into the battlefield (you and future doc do have a historical feud going) but .... so your online persona is somehow different than your real persona? and you are saying future_doc is a phony?

 

Sorry I couldn't resist

 

haha...you did get me there...

 

actually...i think i responded especially harshly to future_doc after she essentially accused someone of being anti-semitic when he was clearly not doing so...that is a pretty vicious libel, especially today, and one should be cautious dishing it out so liberally...

 

PS. to pm09 - the overabundance of specialists...at least relative to job opportunities IS REAL. Talk to ANY urology, opthalmology, ent, plastics, neurosurg, thoracis, cardiac, icu, rad onc or nephrology resident about jobs. Tons are being forced to do 2+ yr fellowships. Some ophthalmologist grads are being forced to take med optho jobs despite fellowships in surgical subspecialties. Some specialists are doing basic hospitalist work. Plenty of internal medicine subspecialists are being forced to do hospitalist work as well (not what they trained YEARS for). It is not a bottom line issue - i am already in medicine and how many people get admitted after me makes no difference to me getting a job. The taxpayer however does pay - and that means the Canadian public.

 

The easy solution is for residencies to take in less residents in the specialties - forcing more med students into family medicine. But staff people and department want residents as it lessons staff work, and increases academic productivity for the academic track staff people. So they resist. And the upcoming disaster awaits.

 

PS. I think the big feud was between future doc and the law...future doc wished the law would not get into medicine in a pretty nasty unexpected way. she actually took time off this website after the public crucification she got.

[UTPEOPLE]

amazing how long that took to sink in on the boards

 

I did not realize that... now my previous statement turns from a joke into full on awkwardness...

[rmorelan]

haha...you did get me there...

 

actually...i think i responded especially harshly to future_doc after she essentially accused someone of being anti-semitic when he was clearly not doing so...that is a pretty vicious libel, especially today, and one should be cautious dishing it out so liberally...

 

PS. to pm09 - the overabundance of specialists...at least relative to job opportunities IS REAL. Talk to ANY urology, opthalmology, ent, plastics, neurosurg, thoracis, cardiac, icu, rad onc or nephrology resident about jobs. Tons are being forced to do 2+ yr fellowships. Some ophthalmologist grads are being forced to take med optho jobs despite fellowships in surgical subspecialties. Some specialists are doing basic hospitalist work. Plenty of internal medicine subspecialists are being forced to do hospitalist work as well (not what they trained YEARS for). It is not a bottom line issue - i am already in medicine and how many people get admitted after me makes no difference to me getting a job. The taxpayer however does pay - and that means the Canadian public.

 

The easy solution is for residencies to take in less residents in the specialties - forcing more med students into family medicine. But staff people and department want residents as it lessons staff work, and increases academic productivity for the academic track staff people. So they resist. And the upcoming disaster awaits.

 

PS. I think the big feud was between future doc and the law...future doc wished the law would not get into medicine in a pretty nasty unexpected way. she actually took time off this website after the public crucification she got.

 

I am hearing the massive retirements that are coming by the time we get out of the system will help a lot with this. The average age of the doctors in many of those specializations is about 55. With 8 years to go at least for many of us we are begin to get close etc. A lot of people were hanging on as well due to the tanking in the stock markets in the recent past. Hopefully that will correct as well in time. Any thoughts on that?

[rmorelan]

I did not realize that... now my previous statement turns from a joke into full on awkwardness...

 

Meh, its not obvious but she did mention it a few times No worries

[sfinch]

I am hearing the massive retirements that are coming by the time we get out of the system will help a lot with this. The average age of the doctors in many of those specializations is about 55. With 8 years to go at least for many of us we are begin to get close etc. A lot of people were hanging on as well due to the tanking in the stock markets in the recent past. Hopefully that will correct as well in time. Any thoughts on that?

 

I agree to some point...but here in london it doesn't seem to be the case. The oldest urologist here is Dr C, and he is in only in his late 50s. The Thor surgeons are all under 50. The eye guys seem to average mid 40s, though a few are quite old. ENT docs have had some recent retirements and had lots of new blood (30s docs hired). No imminent retirements there either!

 

The removal of mandatory retirement is also going to effect specialties like pathology that are salaried, as well as other AFP doctors.

 

Obviously I'm hoping the situation will improve - but with the release valve to the US tightening up - things will become hairier before they improve. At least I believe that to be the case for most specialties.

[rmorelan]

I agree to some point...but here in london it doesn't seem to be the case. The oldest urologist here is Dr C, and he is in only in his late 50s. The Thor surgeons are all under 50. The eye guys seem to average mid 40s, though a few are quite old. ENT docs have had some recent retirements and had lots of new blood (30s docs hired). No imminent retirements there either!

 

The removal of mandatory retirement is also going to effect specialties like pathology that are salaried, as well as other AFP doctors.

 

Obviously I'm hoping the situation will improve - but with the release valve to the US tightening up - things will become hairier before they improve. At least I believe that to be the case for most specialties.

 

hmmm interesting! But if the situation is bad in london and the average ages are still the same overall, there must be somewhere where a huge shortage must manifest at some point(?)

[future_doc]

Not to wade into the battlefield (you and future doc do have a historical feud going) but .... so your online persona is somehow different than your real persona? and you are saying future_doc is a phony?

 

Sorry I couldn't resist

 

Welcome to the "battlefield" even though there is none.

 

There has never been any fued, historical or otherwise, between sfinch and myself. Although somewhat over the top, as I have done on occasion:( , sfinch came to the defence of a member for my having jumped the gun in my misread of an innocent post - and there is nothing wrong with this. And I took no offence to the remarks made w/i the context from where sfinch was comin'. We never had an argument, in fact, in the past sfinch commented to the effect how he enjoyed resding my posts (which he may have mentioned were immature).

 

We are all who we are and are works in progress. Yes, I jumped the gun and am sorry, was forgiven by the person concerned and we enjoyed interesting PM exchanges. We are all part of one community and nobdy is perfect, at least I am not and I have transsgressed in the past. I can only try to do better.

 

I thnik you are referring to Rayven, where my signature consists of his posts was longer than several long posts, which I did to make my point. I try to avoid anything controversial, although this too is a work in progress. And as to my immaturtiy and whether or not there is a lack of readiness on my part for med school, a higher power - the adcoms - will make this judgment in May and I am to meet their representatives very soon this month.

 

Peace and good will to all.