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Medwannabe08 is absolutely correct. Troll or not, you've got 28 pages of responses from people who have spent a lot of time and energy providing you with feedback and advice (and many who haven't been so constructive). Every time someone gives you a suggestion, you turn around and complain that it sounds too hard or that you don't want to 'lower' yourself to an alternate path. Digging yourself out of a 1.37GPA with/without emotional/financial baggage is not going to be an easy task, so stop trying to take the easy way out of it.

 

In my opinion, and it's only my opinion, you still haven't given anybody on this forum an adequate explanation for why you want to be a doctor in the first place (besides $$ and prestige) but you've managed to provide and several explanations for why you shouldn't be one. You don't appear to be too knowledgeable about any other health care professions ("what is a practical nurse" etc.) which in and of itself suggests that you don't truly understand the health care profession in the first place. I think that you need to start taking some initiative and try to figure a few things out for yourself - and not rely on a premed forum to have complete strangers hold your hand and virtually tell you what to do over and over and over again. 28 pages is enough.

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I'd have to say that StellarRay's real barrier to getting into medical school is not academic but rather maturity. Even if he gets his grades to an acceptable level he won't make it past the application process due to his lack of personality attributes desirable of doctors. Take off your blinders Ray, there are plenty of folks with 3.9 GPAs that don't get in. Tell me how you think you will be chosen over people with better academic records who have demonstrated their maturity, judgement, integrity, compassion, empathy, leadership, diligence and independence?

 

P.S. I only keep posting because I find this thread highly entertaining. I've long ago given up the notion that Ray will listen to any that doesn't say "no prob dude, take this easy road and you should get accepted to med school in 4 years." maybe he will come back and read all the excellent advice in this thread in about 2 years when he is is ready to make a change.

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you obviously have no idea what a nurse does even though you're in med school..

 

1) it was a joke playing on common perceptions and stellarray's need for prestige

 

2) I have a very good idea what nurses do. My sister is a nurse who wiped asses the year after she graduated (among other menial tasks in several old age homes) because at the time (1996) it was hard to get a nursing job in canada. She then moved to the states and worked in major trauma center emergency rooms doing triage, cleaning up bits of brain, plugging bullet wounds with her fingers, scooping up intestines and everything else. She is a kick ass competent tough as nails nurse. Hearing her adventure stories was one of things that made me reconsider medicine as a career. My sister and I are very close and i know all about the good points and bad points of the job. She completed a Masters in Public health, moved back to canada and worked as a nurse educator in a post op ward for two years and has just switched into infection control. Not to mention several friends who are nurses 2 who are scrub nurses (husband and wife) in the OR and one who is involved in clinical research. Also I have a close family friend (my "Aunt") who is a NP specialist in Podiatry with her own clinic - her husband (a former farmer) works for her as her assistant.

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I'd have to say that StellarRay's real barrier to getting into medical school is not academic but rather maturity. Even if he gets his grades to an acceptable level he won't make it past the application process due to his lack of personality attributes desirable of doctors.

 

 

That and independence and determination...self-determination will get you far.

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you obviously have no idea what a nurse does even though you're in med school..
I have a very good idea what nurses do. My sister is a nurse who wiped asses the year after she graduated (among other menial tasks in several old age homes) because at the time (1996) it was hard to get a nursing job in canada. She then moved to the states and worked in major trauma center emergency rooms doing triage, cleaning up bits of brain, plugging bullet wounds with her fingers, scooping up intestines and everything else. She is a kick ass competent tough as nails nurse. Hearing her adventure stories was one of things that made me reconsider medicine as a career. My sister and I are very close and i know all about the good points and bad points of the job. She completed a Masters in Public health, moved back to canada and worked as a nurse educator in a post op ward for two years and has just switched into infection control. Not to mention several friends who are nurses 2 who are scrub nurses (husband and wife) in the OR and one who is involved in clinical research. Also I have a close family friend (my "Aunt") who is a NP specialist in Podiatry with her own clinic - her husband (a former farmer) works for her as her assistant.

 

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StellarRay...

 

For a bright guy who has done badly in undergrad... one of the possible causes of failure in my personal experience is a self esteem problem that causes you to fear failure so much that you don't allow yourself to truly make an effort.

 

I would really say that a really grounded self esteem would be the first thing for you to work on. Self esteem is based on a respect and love of self.

 

When your ego is based on:

 

1) Opinion of others of yourself (including loved ones and girlfriend).

 

2) Success at some particular thing (like highschool)

 

3) Doing better at others at some particular thing

 

4) Recieveing copious amounts of attention be it positive or negative...

 

Than you are in trouble and you to rework your self image. You will always be hating yourself if you can't achieve what you want and for you it seems like this very much gets in the way of taking action to improve your situation.

 

If you can acheive this than anything in life that you want to accomplish will be a breeze.

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Dude, I'm really sorry about your situation. Yes, you are in a very difficult position, but I can assure you - there is still hope. Some schools (e.g.: Queen's and UWO) look at 2 years' GPA. So once you get back to school, make sure you put 100% effort to get the best out of those 2 years. I know that Queen's doesn't bother wheather or not you were suspended in the past - they would just look at most recent 2 years' GPA. I'm pretty sure about this because I had a friend who was in EXACT same situation in the past and I just had to call every medical school for information in effort to pull him up from the "hole of self-hatred" (just couldn't stand there and watch him crying every night - he was one of my best friends).

 

PM me if you need a cheer-up :)

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I really wish this would stop....this forum is turning into something out of SDN. The OP opened up about their situation and asked for advice from people. OP did not want others to use this thread as a way of attacking one another like immature children. Please stop. Use this forum for the purposes it is meant to, do not question people's motives , do not say something condescending to other people even if you do not agree with it and do not encourage people to lie on their applications. If you have something positive to contribute to the OP or something another poster says then by all means do so, but otherwise please stop. You know how in grade 1 you learn that if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all?Yeah, it still holds true in later life...go figure.

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OP, repeat courses and do really really well on them.. either take those courses through Athabasca U or any other institution from where they can be transferred to your UofT degree. Bring your undergrad GPA up (by at least 1.0) and then apply for masters and some MD schools in North America. Although repeating courses is looked down upon (and may make you ineligible for some schools), in your case it makes sense to repeat them. Or go the overseas route to pursue medicine. It will be rather expensive and lengthy if you choose that over repeating courses.

 

Pam

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