iwh333 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 i feel kinda sh***y now, thought i had a summer job all lined up for the summer and the project was an interesting one too.. daamit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost__in__space Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 No chance the prof will pay you out of pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman101 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 You think thats bad! I pay out of pocket to travel&live in Baltimore in the summers while my supervisor gets a nice grant from NIH, which he hasn't bothered extending to me. Sad thing is I do 90% of the work, he just checks it over, LOL. But I'm an undergrad so I can't publish anything without his name on it. To be fair I never asked him for a stipend, cause I didn`t know he was even getting funded until today! We bum the data we need for our research off another prof in exchange for using our analysis technique for his project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00b Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 how did you not know he was getting funded? there are profs who do research unfunded? that makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfieMike Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 You think thats bad! I pay out of pocket to travel&live in Baltimore in the summers while my supervisor gets a nice grant from NIH, which he hasn't bothered extending to me. Sad thing is I do 90% of the work, he just checks it over, LOL. But I'm an undergrad so I can't publish anything without his name on it. To be fair I never asked him for a stipend, cause I didn`t know he was even getting funded until today! We bum the data we need for our research off another prof in exchange for using our analysis technique for his project. So your research involves bumming data off other researchers??? ..what kind of research is this exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfieMike Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 how did you not know he was getting funded? there are profs who do research unfunded? that makes no sense yeah like how would he live if he didn't have any funding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman101 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Well this isn't my supervisor's main project. Its a little side project actually created for me. He has his own big projects to make money on. He barely works on this, only I do. So I didn't think he actually got a grant and everything for it. Yes my research involves bumming data off another project. I mean why raise extra mice, inoculate them with cancer, treat them with chemo. drugs, and then send them through the MRI (it costs $500/day to rent the machine) when there is already someone that did all that? All I need is the raw images to develop my computational analysis on. I'm actually presenting on this at a conference tomorrow (I'm 6 hrs behind Eastern time cause I'm in Hawaii for this conference). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwh333 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 No chance the prof will pay you out of pocket? ah, i still have to talk to him about that... i just got the regrets email today... will talk to him tomorrow about it kinda disappointing tho... would it be wise to do it for free? to get some experience? and get a PT job on the side? what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdad Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Depends how much you like eating food and having a roof over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwh333 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 You think thats bad! I pay out of pocket to travel&live in Baltimore in the summers while my supervisor gets a nice grant from NIH, which he hasn't bothered extending to me. Sad thing is I do 90% of the work, he just checks it over, LOL. But I'm an undergrad so I can't publish anything without his name on it. To be fair I never asked him for a stipend, cause I didn`t know he was even getting funded until today! We bum the data we need for our research off another prof in exchange for using our analysis technique for his project. deeman, at least you're working on a project! i want to get some exp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwh333 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Depends how much you like eating food and having a roof over your head. i live at home, no need for that it's mainly money for my tuition/housing which i would like to pay off myself without my parents having to pay for any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdad Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I live in my home too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I live in my home too. I live in a home too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdad Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I live in a home too!! I did a quick edit on you there. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdad Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 By the way I got overlooked for an NSERC that I thought I would get. My prof said he would pay me the same anyway. They work me like a mule in my lab so I guess its worth it for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwh333 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I live in my home too. notice how i said AT and not MY haha. oh yea? okay well i'm going to see if my PI will offer me the same luck...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwh333 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 i guess main thing is it would have been cool to put on my resume... but hey i guess there's always other opportunities out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngdad Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 notice how i said AT and not MY haha. oh yea? okay well i'm going to see if my PI will offer me the same luck...!! It never hurts to ask. Just say something like "darn, no funding. Too bad because I really like working in the lab and would love to stay here in the summer..." He/she should get the point. If that doesn't work than I would just say "Look homie I need some money so either I'm gonna go wait tables or hammer wood together or your gonna pay me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman101 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Ya don't worry about it. In 2nd year I was trying so hard to land a research position for the summer, especially for NSERC, but I miserably failed . So just when I thought I had no hope of getting into research I caught a lucky break and got involved with the research I'm in right now. I can tell you that no NSERC, work at SickKids, etc. can compare with the success and opportunities I gained from this project. So if it seems like you're having no success, don't sweat it. Something better may come your way instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I did a quick edit on you there. lol I take your quick edit and raise you 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfieMike Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 depending on the lab, its economically feasible to hire you on. Consider this: lots of labs hire techs to do work for them, and they get paid a salary. Depending on how hard they work you, you can more than likely get the same amount of work done in a week as a tech, but for only a few G's for the summer. So it makes sense from a money spending perspective to hire summer students to work for cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeopener Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I'm actually presenting on this at a conference tomorrow (I'm 6 hrs behind Eastern time cause I'm in Hawaii for this conference). Deeman.....are you at ISMRM???? I was supposed to go, but had exams. How cool am I, missing a free trip to Hawaii to write final exams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman101 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Deeman.....are you at ISMRM???? I was supposed to go, but had exams. How cool am I, missing a free trip to Hawaii to write final exams. Yes I'm at ISMRM. Its sooo cool here . And you missed cause of exams?? WTF??? I moved 2 exams out of the way to come to this conference. LOL. Registrar and my profs were very accommodating to help me not miss this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 So your research involves bumming data off other researchers??? ..what kind of research is this exactly? I don't think it's that unusual. My undergrad project involved sending our data (i.e. our cells) to another prof in a different province for analysis with the instruments we didn't have. Both profs then were able to use that data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochi1543 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 ah, i still have to talk to him about that... i just got the regrets email today... will talk to him tomorrow about it kinda disappointing tho... would it be wise to do it for free? to get some experience? and get a PT job on the side? what do you guys think? If you can do it PT, get a job on the side, and still afford to pay your expenses (altho maybe not live in the lap of luxury), I would do it. If you're gonna drive yourself into 3 grand worth of debt for it? I wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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