lostintime Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/May2009/21/c6317.html TORONTO, May 21 /CNW/ - Ontario universities welcome the Ontario government's new investment to support 100 additional medical spaces designed to help improve access to physician services. The Ontario government is providing operating funding and $35 million in capital funding to support these new positions. "The government's announcement reflects its continued strong commitment to enhancing health care in the province by addressing the physician shortage through expanded medical education," said Dr. Carol Herbert, Chair of the Council of Ontario Faculties of Medicine (COFM) and Dean of the Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry at the University of Western of Ontario. The increase in undergraduate medical school positions is an important part of the government's physician resource plan, and builds on the two previous successful expansions of 160 new positions begun in 2000 and 104 new positions begun in 2005. This third expansion, along with the establishment of the Northern Ontario School of Medicine, will increase the total number of first year spaces from 532 in 2000 to 952 in 2011. Dr. Paul C. Genest, President of the Council of Ontario Universities, noted: "This government continues to demonstrate strong leadership and commitment to improving health care services to benefit all Ontarians, and the capital investment will also stimulate local economic activity by creating jobs in several communities around the province." COFM values its strong partnership with government in improving Ontarians' access to physician services. ----- What do you guys think about this? Think it'll help significantly in the long run? (The obvious answer is yes, but I guess I'm thinking of any short-term future implications, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supafield Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 It's like adding a new Queen's. Hopefully next year and the year after level off or maybe even drop a tiny bit for interview requirements instead of the constant inflation that's taken place up until this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Well the 12 more spots at western are going to helped pretty much right now. Those people sure aren't going to be complaining in the short or long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostintime Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Well the 12 more spots at western are going to helped pretty much right now. Those people sure aren't going to be complaining in the short or long term Haha I guess I'm talking about 'helping' in the sense of the doctor shortage along with implications for the (pre) medical students themselves. The public won't see a significant improvement until these people graduate (which could be quite long if they choose to do something like neurosurgery haha). Or maybe they're trying to select for more family docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman101 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Wait, so there are an extra 12 spots at UWO on the next cycle? Saawweeeettt! My chances of getting admitted just went up 0.01% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Wait, so there are an extra 12 spots at UWO on the next cycle? Saawweeeettt! My chances of getting admitted just went up 0.01% No......there will be 24 new spots by then. If I am reading this correctly there are 12 new spots right NOW for the fall term! http://www.schulich.uwo.ca/news/index.php?article=000729 Not sure what that does for your odds though (definitely higher in any case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorelan Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Haha I guess I'm talking about 'helping' in the sense of the doctor shortage along with implications for the (pre) medical students themselves. The public won't see a significant improvement until these people graduate (which could be quite long if they choose to do something like neurosurgery haha). Or maybe they're trying to select for more family docs. Well sure, there is the lag In theory though more family doctors could emerge in 6 years, which compared to most adjustments is probably the equivalent of moving at warp speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMG007 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Yeah, it was quite the news. We heard a few weeks ago. I went to the press release today (I'm a Waterloo Mac student). This government has really stepped up to the plate when it comes to doctor shortage. They increased 108 spots in their first term as they had promised and they just made this new goal for the next three years. A whole bunch of those spots came in this year, 7 more for KW, 6 more for Niagra of Mac, the spots for Western and apparently some more spots for UofT. Looking forward to where the future spots go...maybe Queens. It seems like it has been awhile since they increased size. Maybe a satellite for them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Stark Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 So, I wonder when the media will stop talking about the cuts in enrolment in the early 90s. They've gone way beyond making up for those at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supafield Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Yeah, it was quite the news. We heard a few weeks ago. I went to the press release today (I'm a Waterloo Mac student). This government has really stepped up to the plate when it comes to doctor shortage. They increased 108 spots in their first term as they had promised and they just made this new goal for the next three years. A whole bunch of those spots came in this year, 7 more for KW, 6 more for Niagra of Mac, the spots for Western and apparently some more spots for UofT. Looking forward to where the future spots go...maybe Queens. It seems like it has been awhile since they increased size. Maybe a satellite for them too. I've read in a queen's document that they have been approved last year or so funding for 124 spots and they haven't put them in because they don't have the facilities to do so..... The classrooms aren't actually big enough. But I believe in the next few years they plan to start expanding the class 6 spots a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daffodilh Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 More med school spaces is great. Are they going to increase residency spots too? How about more residency spots for IMGs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLengr Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I agree. Pumping med students through is fairly cheap and easy. However it does little to solve the doctor crisis. Unless you give those people residencies it's all useless. On top of just creating residencies, you need to make sure you create new residency spots that people want and keep the ratio of med seats:res positions >1:1. Students will not tolerate being shoved into disciplines they have no interest in. They will simply go to the US (at which point they will be lost to the Canadian system) or pursue some alternate career path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonekid Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 In related news, York is also working to open its own medical school sometime in the "near" future. It was one of the things their new president said they were going to do during their time in office. However, who knows when the school will actually open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supafield Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 lol... York needs to worry about bi-annual strikes at moment. York's effort to put that med school into action have been severely hampered by Western and UofT.... who have told the government why waste money starting a school from scratch when you can just invest in our already established schools and satellite campuses... And that's what seems to be happening... more spots to Western and and Mac's satellite campuses and money for UofT to open one at UTM in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epyfathom Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 In related news, York is also working to open its own medical school sometime in the "near" future. It was one of the things their new president said they were going to do during their time in office. However, who knows when the school will actually open. ...ryerson's president said that too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonekid Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 ...ryerson's president said that too...True, but I personally know one of the doctors that is working on opening the med school at york, and he said that they are WAY further along than ryerson, and the spots that the gov of ontario will agree to will go to York before they go to ryerson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhumble Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 ...ryerson's president said that too... York & Ryerson opening up their own medical school? Excellent! It'll give us a better chance in getting into a medical school in Ontario! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Law Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 York & Ryerson opening up their own medical school? Excellent! It'll give us a better chance in getting into a medical school in Ontario! Haha, I don't see this realistically starting for another 7+ years. They've been talking about it forever! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrhumble Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Haha, I don't see this realistically starting for another 7+ years. They've been talking about it forever! lol 7+ years? that would suck for current pre-meds like me almost graduating lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonekid Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Haha, I don't see this realistically starting for another 7+ years. They've been talking about it forever! lolYeah. The doc I know says the York school is 3 years away, minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premed_d Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 I also read somewhere as well that somewhere in Quebec there was talk about a new medical school opening up I can't remember where. If I find the article I will post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premed_d Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 http://www.canadianmedicinenews.com/2008/03/does-canada-need-more-med-schools.html Looks as though the BC and Quebec ones will be in the far future if it even happens at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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