adam Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I am starting U of S in 20017, I need suggestion if someone can help me to tell which undergraduate degree would be best to get into medicine. I am thinking of Kinesiology or Physiology & Pharmacology. How easy is to get good marks in these subjects. How the different medical school look into these degrees. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Poverty Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I am starting U of S in 20017, I need suggestion if someone can help me to tell which undergraduate degree would be best to get into medicine. I am thinking of Kinesiology or Physiology & Pharmacology. How easy is to get good marks in these subjects. How the different medical school look into these degrees. Thank you in advance. You are starting in 20017... that is a looong time from now lol.... All joking aside, which one are you most interested in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingTheBern Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 You are starting in 20017... that is a looong time from now lol.... All joking aside, which one are you most interested in? ^ Bingo. This is the most important question. Do a degree you truly enjoy. Even if one degree is known to be a bit "easier", any degree is demanding and truly requires you to like what you are learning. There's no "perfect" degree for Canadian medical schools! I suggest looking through all the mandatory courses in both degree and choose one that sounds the most interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMJA Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Yeah, as others have said you should pick a degree that interests you. Whatever degree you choose you can always take the "easy" mark boosting classes. What separates your grades apart from others is how well you do in your 3rd and 4th year classes. If you enjoy what your learning you will do better in 3rd and 4th year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambi Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hard work is required in both due to the volume of material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbix Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 If you're just looking for an "easy" subject, I'm afraid you may struggle in a challenging program like medicine. I suggest you try to avoid the mindset of getting good grades simply for the sake of getting into medical school or some other program. This "pre-med" rhetoric is everywhere, so I can appreciate that it's hard to avoid, but try to pick a major that you are interested in and, if possible, will come in handy should you get into medicine. In my experience, physiology and pharmacology would benefit you more; however, I would strongly advise you to take at least gross anatomy as well. You'd be even better prepared with some introductory microbiology/immunology classes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeboi Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 wow all of these posters are dead wrong lmao, especially scorbix. you can learn anatomy etc in medical school, after your grade stop mattering. lmao 2020 usask MD entering class had a median mcat of what, 501? smh lmfao. it's not a surprise the med school went on accreditation probation two times yes, you will do better in courses you enjoy, but do engineering physics students who love the subject do better than a pre-med who's grinding through kin for grades? no lmao your 4th year grades are irrelevant if you get in the first time around kin is hands down 'easier' than phys pharm that being said, 95+ avg is definitely possible in phpy... you'll notice in 1st and 2nd year that in order to get that 90-100 you have to memorize a bunch of random facts and hope that the few trick questions the prof puts on exams to drop the class average won't get you, whereas in phys pharm there are no trick questions because it's more of a challenge to learn that volume+detail of material ultimately, it's hard to tell right now which subject you will like more because you have no experience with either. however in 1st year, with proper course selection, you can take a mix of science and kin courses and still be free to make a decision at the end of the year without any reprecussions good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballsortahard Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 ^^^^ what this guy said OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Thank you every one for your suggestions and comments. What do you think about Bachelor of Arts and Science Four-year (B.A.&Sc. Four-year) - Health Studies Is it right degree to get into Medical school? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbix Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Thank you every one for your suggestions and comments. What do you think about Bachelor of Arts and Science Four-year (B.A.&Sc. Four-year) - Health Studies Is it right degree to get into Medical school? Thanks in advance Very interesting program; certainly something that was not available back when I was in undergrad. After a very quick glance at the classes required, I'd expect a very well-rounded applicant from this program. You're exposed to a number of different topics that are relevant to medicine; however, a lot of the more social components of this program are also taught in medicine, so it may seem as slightly redundant. That being said, however, you'd certainly be well prepared for MMIs, assuming of course you do well enough in the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDA Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Thank you every one for your suggestions and comments. What do you think about Bachelor of Arts and Science Four-year (B.A.&Sc. Four-year) - Health Studies Is it right degree to get into Medical school? Thanks in advance Hist 165 or 125 offered in this program look so good. I wish I could go back and take these. I am definitely biased towards history, so take this with a grain of salt, but in my experience at the U of S, if you work hard, you can do better in History than in political studies or english. Though if you are simply looking for a better grade in your humanities electives, sociology or anthropology are probably better bets even if their departments are not as strong. In any case, I hope that you enjoy the program. It looks like a good one. wow all of these posters are dead wrong lmao, especially scorbix. you can learn anatomy etc in medical school, after your grade stop mattering. lmao 2020 usask MD entering class had a median mcat of what, 501? smh lmfao. it's not a surprise the med school went on accreditation probation two times yes, you will do better in courses you enjoy, but do engineering physics students who love the subject do better than a pre-med who's grinding through kin for grades? no lmao your 4th year grades are irrelevant if you get in the first time around kin is hands down 'easier' than phys pharm that being said, 95+ avg is definitely possible in phpy... you'll notice in 1st and 2nd year that in order to get that 90-100 you have to memorize a bunch of random facts and hope that the few trick questions the prof puts on exams to drop the class average won't get you, whereas in phys pharm there are no trick questions because it's more of a challenge to learn that volume+detail of material ultimately, it's hard to tell right now which subject you will like more because you have no experience with either. however in 1st year, with proper course selection, you can take a mix of science and kin courses and still be free to make a decision at the end of the year without any reprecussions good luck While I agree with many of your points, its too bad that you felt the need to insult the school and the class of 2020 in order to make them. I thought that the post was unprofessional and unbecoming of either a medical student or a prospect medical student and significantly detracted from the opinion that you went on to present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 wow all of these posters are dead wrong lmao, especially scorbix. you can learn anatomy etc in medical school, after your grade stop mattering. lmao 2020 usask MD entering class had a median mcat of what, 501? smh lmfao. it's not a surprise the med school went on accreditation probation two times yes, you will do better in courses you enjoy, but do engineering physics students who love the subject do better than a pre-med who's grinding through kin for grades? no lmao your 4th year grades are irrelevant if you get in the first time around kin is hands down 'easier' than phys pharm that being said, 95+ avg is definitely possible in phpy... you'll notice in 1st and 2nd year that in order to get that 90-100 you have to memorize a bunch of random facts and hope that the few trick questions the prof puts on exams to drop the class average won't get you, whereas in phys pharm there are no trick questions because it's more of a challenge to learn that volume+detail of material ultimately, it's hard to tell right now which subject you will like more because you have no experience with either. however in 1st year, with proper course selection, you can take a mix of science and kin courses and still be free to make a decision at the end of the year without any reprecussions good luck Hahaha i personally know a few Engineering physics students that have done, and are doing better than some premeds (Maintaining 80-95%). However, I do agree in the sense that there is a fair balance between grades vs interest. Kin has been considered an easier degree, but no degree is easy. Phys Pharm has a lot of material but does prepare you better for Medicine, but that does not mean Kin students struggle in Medicine. Learning material for Medical school in your undergrad is only a small portion of the reason undergrad still exists as a requirement. Its more about the work ethic you will develop in the four years, and kin or Phys Pharm you will have to put in hours. Whichever you choose, just put in hardwork and you will get results. Dont worry about it being hard or easy. (P.S. = The MCAT average of the Class of 2020 doesn't reflect their brilliance. I know many individuals in the class and they are very hardworking. The MCAT score's signifance is a debate for another day hah.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etudie Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 From talking to 1st and 2nd year profs (either my profs or family who teach) it is clear that Phys Pharm, ACB, MCIM, and biochem students perform significantly better in the first years of med school than kinesiology students. Kinesiology does not prepare students for the workload that accompanies 1st and 2nd year med, these students struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywonka Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 From talking to 1st and 2nd year profs (either my profs or family who teach) it is clear that Phys Pharm, ACB, MCIM, and biochem students perform significantly better in the first years of med school than kinesiology students. Kinesiology does not prepare students for the workload that accompanies 1st and 2nd year med, these students struggle.There are unique benefits to every degree and challenges that come as well. Medicine is entirely different from all undergrad programs so you might as well take what you enjoy most and if you really want it you'll work hard enough to do well at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etudie Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 Willywonka,I'm not talking about undergrad profs. I'm talking about first and second year medicine profs, both clinical skill accessors and classroom. Not to mention that in majors like physpharm and acb some of the upper year profs also teach med, dent, and physiotherapy. In the long run will it make a difference, probably not. In the short term kinesiology students are more likely to be overwhelmed than physpharm, acb, MCIM, etc with the amount of content. The college is planning on increasing the weighting of MCAT to make up for the differences in UAA between colleges/majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpley Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 I am starting U of S in 20017, I need suggestion if someone can help me to tell which undergraduate degree would be best to get into medicine. I am thinking of Kinesiology or Physiology & Pharmacology. How easy is to get good marks in these subjects. How the different medical school look into these degrees. Thank you in advance. Hi Adam, I'm currently graduating from physiology and pharmacology (PHPY) and here are my thoughts on it: Firstly, Usask doesn't really care which undergraduate degree you complete. It may be beneficial to have a science background for the purposes of taking the MCAT. However, MCAT classes from prep companies are capable of teaching that material to students from a non-science background. With regards to a degree, if you choose a biomedical science route (ACB, MCIM, PHPY, BIOC), the first two years consist of core classes that you'll need to take for all of these degrees. This may be a good time to really consider what your interests are, and what degree you'll end up pursuing. I started off wanting to major in microbiology (MCIM), but after intro microbiology in 2nd year, I decided not to pursue that route anymore. Similarly, if you take a generalized group of classes in your first year towards a certain program, and you don't end up liking it, classes are likely transferable between the two programs. Secondly, within degrees, there are opportunities to take PHPY classes. For example, students from anatomy (ACB) can take PHPY classes as electives. From that, they can gain insight into physiology, although it's not their primary field of study. If you are considering kinesiology, there may be similar opportunities to take elective classes if you're interested in physiology and pharmacology. If you do PHPY and want more insight into anatomy, the new PHPY program allows students to take anatomy electives to complete their degree. Overall, don't stress it! Find out what you like and what you don't like. It's difficult to complete a four year degree if you don't enjoy what you're learning. As many others on this post have commented earlier, PHPY does require a lot of work. I felt that third year was the most difficult out of them all, because you were taught the physiology of all the body systems, and you were expected to use that to understand the effects of drugs on the body. Sometimes, simply memorizing is insufficient. The focus for physiology is to understand how systems work. If you are reliant on memorizing without understanding, you won't get too far. However, with drug names you'll definitely have to find a system to memorize those. Fourth year is all about experimental techniques and research, so the emphasis was less on knowing facts, but learning about possible therapeutics. As for how PHPY will benefit students in medical school, it really depends on the individual. From what I've heard, students from non-PHPY backgrounds can do just as well as students in PHPY based on their approaches to learning and improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhominem Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 I am starting U of S in 20017, I need suggestion if someone can help me to tell which undergraduate degree would be best to get into medicine. I am thinking of Kinesiology or Physiology & Pharmacology. How easy is to get good marks in these subjects. How the different medical school look into these degrees. Thank you in advance. In all seriousness, please take a degree that gives you the freedom to pursue English electives. Not trying to be mean, but you won't get very far without improving in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywonka Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Willywonka,I'm not talking about undergrad profs. I'm talking about first and second year medicine profs, both clinical skill accessors and classroom. Not to mention that in majors like physpharm and acb some of the upper year profs also teach med, dent, and physiotherapy. In the long run will it make a difference, probably not. In the short term kinesiology students are more likely to be overwhelmed than physpharm, acb, MCIM, etc with the amount of content. The college is planning on increasing the weighting of MCAT to make up for the differences in UAA between colleges/majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willywonka Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Just stick to whatever you like best! You never know you might not even want medicine after a few years of undergrad so keep your mind open to everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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