mew Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 I keep getting the feedback that I'm very keen. I'm worried that this is tacitly a bad thing (like I'm overenthusiastic, or something). I've really enjoyed clerkship so far and I've been engaged out of genuine interest, and I'm just trying to be a good clerk. Is this a polite way of telling me I need to tone it down? How is feedback like this interpreted on a MSPR? DrOtter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unmatch Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 You're fine, being keen is the most basic thing any preceptor looks for in a medical student. If you feel like you're being a bit much then maybe try toning it down a bit but I wouldn't be anxious about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakoon Posted December 20, 2020 Report Share Posted December 20, 2020 I agree with the above. Different feedback means different things to different people. I doubt they have some sort of standardized or secret meaning that all attendings are in on like keen = good or keen = bad. if it's really bothering you, the best thing you can do is maybe ask for an honest opinion from someone you feel comfortable enough asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded frog Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 Being "keen" is great, always good when the med student is interested and engaged and happy to go above and beyond. From here it's impossible to read beyond that. I will say the following with the caveat that I don't know anything about you or weather it applies to you, but if you are not getting any other positive feedback other than "keen" its a sign that they are looking for something positive to say. As a resident who evaluates medical students, maybe there's a student who's knowledge is lacking or had another deficiency, at least I can say that on the positive side, they were eager to help out and seemed keen to be there, if you see what I mean. Again, don't know if this is you but its the only context in which I can think of "keen" as not a positive. jb24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sykern Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 3:08 PM, mew said: I keep getting the feedback that I'm very keen. I'm worried that this is tacitly a bad thing (like I'm overenthusiastic, or something). I've really enjoyed clerkship so far and I've been engaged out of genuine interest, and I'm just trying to be a good clerk. Is this a polite way of telling me I need to tone it down? How is feedback like this interpreted on a MSPR? Def need context for this! Being keen is one thing, but if it's in the context of something like "Great to work with, team player blah blah" then it's fine. Try to look at the whole picture, and from what I've learned, usually 'bad' feedback will be given verbally. You could always reach out to preceptors as well and ask, if you're comfortable. Feel free to PM me, happy to chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemedicinesomuch Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 It's good to be keen, enthusiastic and motivated! That sounds like great MSPR... I heard that no body reads MSPR really thoroughly though, other than to look for red flags or professionalism issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSWschnoodle Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 3:08 PM, mew said: I keep getting the feedback that I'm very keen. I'm worried that this is tacitly a bad thing (like I'm overenthusiastic, or something). I've really enjoyed clerkship so far and I've been engaged out of genuine interest, and I'm just trying to be a good clerk. Is this a polite way of telling me I need to tone it down? How is feedback like this interpreted on a MSPR? If you got this on an ITER from me then keen is a great thing. I love keen, interested and engaged medical students and will enthusiastically say so on evaluations :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robclem21 Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 Keen is a great thing. TOO keen is not a good thing. It is important to be interested and engaged, and actively seek out opportunities to learn and take responsibility for your patients. On the other hand, I have seen med students who overstep their bounds or their training and have sometimes stepped on the toes of more senior medical students or residents or even staff, and this is TOO keen. This rubs many people the wrong way and is a bad thing. It is still important to be aware of your role and expectations before trying to do too much. Pakoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0lfgang Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 It's a fine balance. Check yourself every now and then. The fact that you're questioning this about yourself means you probably have enough self-awareness to display an optimal degree of keenness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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