Premed Horror Stories

[Roxanne]

Your results looks awesome, while everyone else has an impure result.

 

Wouldn't that look very suspect? When this happens the lab instructor should pick up on it, and (hopefully) do something about it. It is academic dishonesty, and just a stupid way to try to get ahead.

 

 

I read through some of the stories in this thread and it worries me that people would stoop this low. What about integrity, accountability? Especially in the field of medicine. What does that say about them as doctors? I wouldn't want to work side-by-side with people like that, and it would make me question their actual competence. I understand competition is natural in this, so if you're a good doctor (or student), prove it with your own, honest, hard work, without undermining the efforts of other people--whether they're the competition and especially if they are the team you're working with--as well as eventually the trust and confidence of patients, and it will show through. People who need to lie and cheat to "get ahead" do not deserve to be practicing medicine.

 

Maybe I'm naive, but those people are cowards.

[future_doc]

It is academic dishonesty, and just a stupid way to try to get ahead.

 

I read through some of the stories in this thread and it worries me that people would stoop this low. What about integrity, accountability? Especially in the field of medicine. What does that say about them as doctors? I wouldn't want to work side-by-side with people like that, and it would make me question their actual competence.....People who need to lie and cheat to "get ahead" do not deserve to be practicing medicine.

 

Maybe I'm naive, but those people are cowards.

 

Unfortunately, douchebags get into every profession. After all, medicine reflects society. Hopefully, once these people accompished their goal of getting into medical school, they no longer act this way, but no guarantees. Being a doctor does not necessarily make someone a good and decent person.

[ciel999]

I always sat next to this girl in one of my classes, a few years ago. She was a pre-med and she would literally wave her assignments in my face before handing them in to the professor.

 

She eventually got accepted into medical school. Go figure.

[danisings]

This, thankfully, was my only crazy premed experience. In a biochemistry lab at the beginning of the year my best friend and I were super stoked to finally have a class and lab together. We picked a bench by the radio because we like to jam . Anyway, the bench also turned out to be near the lab instructor who turned out to be generally a really awesome and hilarious guy. While I guess there's no formal seating, at least in our labs people always worked at the same benches. A month into lab, I show up and there's two guys at our bench. I didn't think too much of it, I just figured they were accidentally one row off their spot so I was like "Hey, sorry but I think you've got the wrong bench, this is ____ and my workbench". Anyway a$shole turns to me and says "Yea, well, it's a cut throat lab" (it's not, it was a super chill lab) and turns away from me. I know this didn't obviously affect our mark (and I don't know what his motivation was...being closer to the lab instructor?), but I had to pick my jaw up off the floor at his douchebagery. This guy is going into 4th year med.

[lebreh]

wow. this thread is absolutely disgusting... i read every page and it just made me cringe inside...

 

i personally know of only one "friend" that fits these descriptions. he/she did not want to lend me his/her notes when i needed them (and gave me attitude as well), he/she thinks I AM the one that is competitive when it's him/her that is the one that cares so much about my/other people's marks (when in reality i don't even care what this douche gets because he/she isn't even close to my level of ambition). just very negative energy in general. i don't talk to him/her anymore.

[cookiemonster99]

I don't have a premed story but I do have one about a doctor that I volunteered for.

 

The situation was that he has a joint practice where there are 3 doctors in the clinic. 2 family doctors and 1 specialist(not sure what speciality)

So for 3 doctors there was only 1 secretary and in order to save money and cut expenses he gets like 4 volunteers to come in and help with essentially 'secretary work' that he claims to be medicine related work. I filed and called his patients for pretty much 5 out of the 8 hours I work there with no pay. The other three I prep the patients so the doctor can just do the bare minimum and see more patient thus more money. He made me wash his carpet one day and I didn't know how to use his carpet cleaner so he started to be racist saying that all ______ people are idiots and can't do anything right.

The next day after I told my parents what happened they suggest I quit so the next day I told him I got a job instead and needed to quit he told me he never would have hired me if he knew I couldn't work the entire 4 months( during the interview I clearly told him I was looking for jobs too). Just so you guy know he wanted me to work 4 months as a volunteer for 8 hours a day Monday to Friday and alternating Saturdays for ABSOLUTELY NO COMPENSATION. When I told him I was quitting he flipped out and told me I'm not committed to anything I do and that I will never be a doctor.

 

He even said a 90% at my school if I were to go to Uft I would only get 65%.

 

I gathered my stuff and walked out not finishing my shift and never went back.

[cookiemonster99]

Wow...................

 

in case you were wondering where he went to medical school.

 

he went to Uft

[xkittens]

I don't have a premed story but I do have one about a doctor that I volunteered for.

 

The situation was that he has a joint practice where there are 3 doctors in the clinic. 2 family doctors and 1 specialist(not sure what speciality)

So for 3 doctors there was only 1 secretary and in order to save money and cut expenses he gets like 4 volunteers to come in and help with essentially 'secretary work' that he claims to be medicine related work. I filed and called his patients for pretty much 5 out of the 8 hours I work there with no pay. The other three I prep the patients so the doctor can just do the bare minimum and see more patient thus more money. He made me wash his carpet one day and I didn't know how to use his carpet cleaner so he started to be racist saying that all ______ people are idiots and can't do anything right.

The next day after I told my parents what happened they suggest I quit so the next day I told him I got a job instead and needed to quit he told me he never would have hired me if he knew I couldn't work the entire 4 months( during the interview I clearly told him I was looking for jobs too). Just so you guy know he wanted me to work 4 months as a volunteer for 8 hours a day Monday to Friday and alternating Saturdays for ABSOLUTELY NO COMPENSATION. When I told him I was quitting he flipped out and told me I'm not committed to anything I do and that I will never be a doctor.

 

He even said a 90% at my school if I were to go to Uft I would only get 65%.

 

I gathered my stuff and walked out not finishing my shift and never went back.

Lmfao would this by any chance be dr. T K Wong at keele/sheppard? Feel free to PM me the answer so I can lol harder

[penguin92]

Lmfao would this by any chance be dr. T K Wong at keele/sheppard? Feel free to PM me the answer so I can lol harder

 

It can't be him...... I volunteered for him for a year and a half and i cannot see him saying that. Plus, his clinic is 4 family docs, not 2 family and a specialist. Ya the volunteers are pretty much there to save money but i would be shocked if he ever said something like that

[cookiemonster99]

Lmfao would this by any chance be dr. T K Wong at keele/sheppard? Feel free to PM me the answer so I can lol harder

 

It can't be him...... I volunteered for him for a year and a half and i cannot see him saying that. Plus, his clinic is 4 family docs, not 2 family and a specialist. Ya the volunteers are pretty much there to save money but i would be shocked if he ever said something like that

 

unfortunately it was him.

He said it when I was in his office telling him I got a job and needed to quit.

 

I was so disgusted by what he said I decided to NOT go into medicine knowing that these type of doctors exist.

Unfortunately, there will always be people like this who get into medical school.

[penguin92]

unfortunately it was him.

He said it when I was in his office telling him I got a job and needed to quit.

 

I was so disgusted by what he said I decided to NOT go into medicine knowing that these type of doctors exist.

Unfortunately, there will always be people like this who get into medical school.

 

My world just got turned upside down.....I can't believe it

[FrenchToast]

unfortunately it was him.

He said it when I was in his office telling him I got a job and needed to quit.

 

I was so disgusted by what he said I decided to NOT go into medicine knowing that these type of doctors exist.

Unfortunately, there will always be people like this who get into medical school.

 

Aww. Don't let that deter you. If anything, that should be inspiration for you to go into medicine to be a better doctor who is, yano, actually respectful of humans.

 

Also, omg these people are good at selling this "amazingly awesome will-change-your-life" volunteer role. http://www.gracehealthcentre.ca/volunteering

 

Edit: "To be successful, post-secondary applicants generally require a minimum average of A. Applicants from the University of Toronto's St. George campus may, however, apply with a minimum average of B." LMAO

[Catlover159797]

Aww. Don't let that deter you. If anything, that should be inspiration for you to go into medicine to be a better doctor who is, yano, actually respectful of humans.

 

Also, omg these people are good at selling this "amazingly awesome will-change-your-life" volunteer role. http://www.gracehealthcentre.ca/volunteering

 

Edit: "To be successful, post-secondary applicants generally require a minimum average of A. Applicants from the University of Toronto's St. George campus may, however, apply with a minimum average of B." LMAO

 

WOW I can't believe this place actually exists!!!

 

Here's a suggestion: volunteer somewhere where they actually appreciate you and not want to turn volunteering into slavery.

[Caliver]

lmao. clearly they are bolstering the Asian stereotype.

 

Yeah, I have seen a few of individuals who have similar traits in my undergrad program getting into med school. The admissions processes are not perfect for sure.

[cookiemonster99]

My world just got turned upside down.....I can't believe it

 

sorry to hear that but it opens your eyes up to what he is.

I'm pretty glad I got to see the ugly side of some doctors

he basically wanted to earn more money so he had volunteers call up patients

telling them to come in and so we do the basic bp, weight, height, etc.

Basically preping the patient for him so he spends wayyyyy less time with them so he can see more patients. More patients=more money.

If you do EVERYTHING he asks for and be quiet he's pretty nice.

But ffs....he made me clean his carpet.....like wash it and clean it.......

it TOOK HOURS............ I never really know how to use his stupid old carpet cleaning thingy so I was like..ummmmmm how do you do this? and is this right? a couple of times he started saying that I'm not careful and if i pay attention it's self-explanatory!

How do you expect someone to use your carpet cleaner without you teaching to how to?

and 2nd......SERIOUSLY? getting your volunteers to do manual labor? because you're too cheap to actually pay for real cleaning services?

 

I can't even count how many times I cleaned up his messy office/vacuumed the other physician's offices, all of which I"M NOT suppose to be doing

 

Aww. Don't let that deter you. If anything, that should be inspiration for you to go into medicine to be a better doctor who is, yano, actually respectful of humans.

 

Also, omg these people are good at selling this "amazingly awesome will-change-your-life" volunteer role. http://www.gracehealthcentre.ca/volunteering

 

Edit: "To be successful, post-secondary applicants generally require a minimum average of A. Applicants from the University of Toronto's St. George campus may, however, apply with a minimum average of B." LMAO

 

I don't want to be a doctor anyways(yes.....I ACTUALLY DON"T). I figured it simply isn't worth it, the number of years in schools vs payout is not worth it for me personally. Plus, dealing with dying patients is not something I can deal with.

[DoctorS]

This isn't really a horror story, seeing as it turned out good for me but, last year, we were doing an online quiz in a large group (in residence) and we were all working on it together. There was one question that none of us was able to get but someone else in our building already did the quiz so we decided to ask him. He didn't actually tell us what he did though, he just made up some random work and told us to put some random answer and said it was the same one he put (we later found out that he didn't choose the same option and he was just telling us to choose that one so he would do better). Once the marks came out for the quiz, we all got that question wrong but he got the mark for it. HOWEVER, a day later, there was a notification on the course website saying that there was an error in the marking of the quiz and that the "wrong" answer the guy told us to select was actually correct and his answer turned out to be wrong

[lebreh]

unfortunately it was him.

He said it when I was in his office telling him I got a job and needed to quit.

 

I was so disgusted by what he said I decided to NOT go into medicine knowing that these type of doctors exist.

Unfortunately, there will always be people like this who get into medical school.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[cookiemonster99]

^ yep...

that's him.

[laladeedee]

When I was in the hospital for clinical i encountered a mean doc that was quite aggressively telling me to feed a pt tht was completely refusing to eat!!! I just let it go though. (I'm in nsg) but the med student clerks are usually rlly nice at least omg the nurses, let me tell you that some of those are nurses are just awful! Awful I tell you!!!!!!

[MD92]

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miscers everywhere

[fred245]

Life has a way of balancing itself out and giving its own rewards. Creeps who cheat/act unethical won't stop and sooner or later they get caught in life. I made a deal to sell texts at a fair price to a student who was going to take my courses. He showed up at my home the day before classes began and demanded a hefty reduction in price, explaining to me that it was now too late for me to sell to any other student and I had no choice. I simply stared this dishonest, unethical cockroach down and told him "you will definitely be a failure in life with your ethics, I will give my texts away gladly rather than deal with the likes of you, you unethical b...ard" and slammed the door in his face. For openers, he had to buy new texts at full price, he lost access to my course notes and I spread the word of his unethical actions, thereby giving him the rep on campus that he deserves. He has thus far outsmarted himself. Heaven forbid that he gets into medicine.

 

That's not really that bad IMO. It's bad faith, but nothing much beyond that. This is how the business world operates, except the stakes are usually higher than a few hundred bucks.

[Lunasly]

My world just got turned upside down.....I can't believe it

 

Why would it be? You shouldn't be surprised by this sort of thing. It's odd how we have such high expectations of doctors, judges, etc in society when at the end of the day they're just people. Corruption and dishonesty exists in all avenues of life, even from the people we would never expect it from. I saw a story the other day of a judge that blackmailed a victim of a case into having sex with him if she didn't want to lose.

[MD92]

To the story about the person in the lab that took the posters lab bench and said "cut throat lab" lmao, I'd honestly punch him in the face and drag him out of the lab, such stupidity.

 

And that girl who was stealing peoples notes and discarding them at UofT, does UofT allocate grades where like the top 5% get A+ etc...

[shikimate]

During my undergrad at UofT I don't recall encountering premeds that were as malicious as described. And mark wise I'd say most 2nd year courses were fair with B- or B average, and most 3rd and 4th year courses were generous with marks, with many B, B+ course averages. But then again I wasn't in one of those super competitive programs, which I feel unless you are keen on research in that area it's probably an overkill for pre-med program.

[penguin92]

Why would it be? You shouldn't be surprised by this sort of thing. It's odd how we have such high expectations of doctors, judges, etc in society when at the end of the day they're just people. Corruption and dishonesty exists in all avenues of life, even from the people we would never expect it from. I saw a story the other day of a judge that blackmailed a victim of a case into having sex with him if she didn't want to lose.

 

I'm surprised because I volunteered for him for a year and a half. He'd often ask me about how my courses were going and what kind of progress I was making with my research project at school. He was very approachable and never at all seemed like the type to say racist comments or become upset at someone who needed to quit for other opportunities.