Arttomed Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I just got into med school but I heard from family/friends that failing is not that big of a deal. I am sure you gonna get a great score next time and will be an amazing doctor. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falling Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Just go to western med and find the snobbiest guy, and it's probably him. It probably wouldn't be all that difficult to find out who the poster is over the net. Someone told me about a poster on student doctor forum that got into a very prestigious school (Harvard, maybe) and then made a racist post on the forum. Someone figured out his identity and alerted the school. His acceptance was revoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Stark Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Because sometimes I can't resist piling on... They did raise the cutoff score - but in all honestly - passing the exam is pretty easy by all standards. I'm almost curious what medical school you went to - because people passing medical school and failing what is essentially a gimmie exam, is very concerning. I've looked at the typical questions on the exam from the Toronto Notes( from my cousin) - and even I could answer a reasonable portion with only a medical sciences undergrad degree!! And 2/3 of the exam is based on a only a few short chapters (peds, public health, obs/gyn, psych) - give me 2 months with the Toronto Notes, and I bet I could pass the written exam without even touching medical school (though the oral version of course I would be destroyed by). Before you unleash yourself out on the world of real live patients, you should seriously consider taking your profession seriously and study hard. While the MCCQE 1 isn't difficult to pass, I don't think it's a very straightforward exam. You need to take studying for it seriously. I mainly did practice questions, albeit ones meant for the USMLE Step 2 CK. That was because Toronto Notes is a terrible, superficial reference which at best functions as a refresher for material you might have already learned. And, forgive me for saying so, but pre-clerkship med students don't know very much, and it takes a while for clerks to function in hospital let alone get good at it. So I'd drop that condescending, arrogant attitude right now because it will not come off well in the future. Simply put, you don't know what you don't know. Otherwise, people do fail MCCQE 2, CCFP, and Royal College exams. It is always a setback, but people recover and move on. The trick is that these exams get harder as time goes on, but you are trained to a certain standard and study accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupacandbiggie Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Are you seriously writing this as a premed lol? If so, lets recap: The OP, to get to the point where he passes the LMCC needs to: Study a bit more next time, waste some money on a rewrite. Otherwise, no consequences, and his chances of success are basically 100%. For uwopremed to get to that point he needs to: f-ing get into med school, write many tests, match to a residency program, all of which have much higher failure rates and he is much less likely to accomplish. Chances of success maybe- 10%? To the OP: you don't even need to tell your program, I sort of wish no one had given you that advice as its not true, atleast in Ontario. Hey Thanks for the posts. I am in Ontario, So you are saying there won't be any consequences affecting my residency? I did notify my postgrad office, and they have not responded to my email at all. I wonder if I have done myself harm by notifying them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amichel Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Hey Thanks for the posts. I am in Ontario, So you are saying there won't be any consequences affecting my residency? I did notify my postgrad office, and they have not responded to my email at all. I wonder if I have done myself harm by notifying them? I think you should probably ask your school (as in your med school not residency school about this). We just got an email about the massively increased national failure rate and it said that people who fail can start residency but may have practice limitations (such as getting prescriptions signed off on). Maybe that's just Alberta though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruhh Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 such as getting prescriptions signed off on). Maybe that's just Alberta though... Is this forever or can you regain full authority if you redo and pass the test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amichel Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Is this forever or can you regain full authority if you redo and pass the test? No no no. Just until you pass the test. Sorry. bruhh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD2015 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think you should probably ask your school (as in your med school not residency school about this). We just got an email about the massively increased national failure rate and it said that people who fail can start residency but may have practice limitations (such as getting prescriptions signed off on). Maybe that's just Alberta though... This is not true everywhere. For some, not only is residency postponed in best case scenario, but you do NOT receive your M.D. degree that you have already earned until you pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amichel Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 This is not true everywhere. For some, not only is residency postponed in best case scenario, but you do NOT receive your M.D. degree that you have already earned until you pass. Yah, in Quebec. I was responding to the person who said that there were no repercussions and op should not tell their program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeping_sickness Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 French schools in QC require the mccqe1 to graduate. When i was looking into how important this exam was at McGill, I read their website and it does say that you must pass either the mccqe1 or the usmle step 2 ck to graduate. However, this is definitely not the case and they tell us so. They should probably update the website. i'm also pretty sure that in most programs you don't need your prescriptions signed off. mccqe1 is a requirement for full licensure, not for basic resident duties, in most scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerroger Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) On 2015-06-17 at 3:43 PM, uwopremed said: They did raise the cutoff score - but in all honestly - passing the exam is pretty easy by all standards. I'm almost curious what medical school you went to - because people passing medical school and failing what is essentially a gimmie exam, is very concerning. I've looked at the typical questions on the exam from the Toronto Notes( from my cousin) - and even I could answer a reasonable portion with only a medical sciences undergrad degree!! And 2/3 of the exam is based on a only a few short chapters (peds, public health, obs/gyn, psych) - give me 2 months with the Toronto Notes, and I bet I could pass the written exam without even touching medical school (though the oral version of course I would be destroyed by). Before you unleash yourself out on the world of real live patients, you should seriously consider taking your profession seriously and study hard. UWOpremed you are in dire need of some humbling. Go study your MCAT or whatever course you are taking... PS. As a former TNotes author I have no problem saying that book is not indicitive of how you would do on the exam. Apples and oranges. PPS. To the original poster. The MCC exams are a "getting out of residency tax". They are silly. Don't over think their value. Treat the exam as what it is. Pass it before you finish residency and move on. Edited July 10, 2017 by rogerroger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irwin Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I am a Paediatrician for 10years, trained and practicing in South Africa. I just failed the QE1 by 2 points, that was a real shock to the system, it was alot more difficult than I expected. I only used USMLE (5 books) and Qbank, any successful Canadian graduates willing to share information on how to pass and what study material to use. I am rewriting in August. Assistance would be greatly appreciated. Irwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionsAbound Posted March 17, 2020 Report Share Posted March 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Irwin said: I am a Paediatrician for 10years, trained and practicing in South Africa. I just failed the QE1 by 2 points, that was a real shock to the system, it was alot more difficult than I expected. I only used USMLE (5 books) and Qbank, any successful Canadian graduates willing to share information on how to pass and what study material to use. I am rewriting in August. Assistance would be greatly appreciated. Irwin I exclusively used Uworld and felt it was more than sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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